Hardware (or software) to find wireless clients?

hotelwifi · 03-19-2005

Netstumbler can be used with wireless PC card hardware, to find APs.

But is there hardware and software to find wireless clients, that are connected to those APs?

I ask because, I'm interested in being able to find wireless clients, who may be abusing the WiFi system I installed. I see their MAC addresses, but I need some kind of wireless software (like Netstumbler) &/or hardware, but made to find the wireless clients.

Thanks

streaker69 · 03-19-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotelwifi

Netstumbler can be used with wireless PC card hardware, to find APs.

But is there hardware and software to find wireless clients, that are connected to those APs?

I ask because, I'm interested in being able to find wireless clients, who may be abusing the WiFi system I installed. I see their MAC addresses, but I need some kind of wireless software (like Netstumbler) &/or hardware, but made to find the wireless clients.

Thanks

Ahh, young one, seek and ye shall find, meditate on AirSnare, and you shall surely find what you seek.

Monitr7 · 03-19-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by streaker69

Ahh, young one, seek and ye shall find, meditate on AirSnare, and you shall surely find what you seek.

You forgot, oh honored wifi geek master, to ask him to snatch the Orinoco card from your hand. Ah so...

/GONNNNNNNNNNG

hotelwifi · 03-19-2005

Thank you both very much.

I'll take a look for the Air Snare.

I guess it will let me see a signal strength reading of the wireless clienet device, whose MAC address I'm trying to track down? Maybe something with a graph readout?

Thanks,

wrzwaldo · 03-19-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotelwifi

Thank you both very much.

I'll take a look for the Air Snare.

I guess it will let me see a signal strength reading of the wireless clienet device, whose MAC address I'm trying to track down? Maybe something with a graph readout?

Thanks,

No, no signal strength, no graph. Just a MAC list. There are screenshots available on this site.

http://home.comcast.net/~jay.deboer/airsnare/

Of course now that I've said that it looks like there is a new version. I like the new version!

streaker69 · 03-19-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotelwifi

Thank you both very much.

I'll take a look for the Air Snare.

I guess it will let me see a signal strength reading of the wireless clienet device, whose MAC address I'm trying to track down? Maybe something with a graph readout?

Thanks,

Your guess is wrong. But it will track their IP and allow you to capture their session for later viewing.

Barry · 03-19-2005

WTF!!!

Oh man, why, why, why, why, why, why, did they have to ruin it....

Groover · 03-20-2005

Anyone played foxhunt? It's quite fun with some HAM entusiasts around here. It works like this, you triangulate a signal and first to find the beacon win (very short description).

Is there any program that could work like this with a wifi client? All you would need is a directional antenna and a program that show signalstrength for a specific MAC adress.

wrzwaldo · 03-20-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groover

Anyone played foxhunt? It's quite fun with some HAM entusiasts around here. It works like this, you triangulate a signal and first to find the beacon win (very short description).

Is there any program that could work like this with a wifi client? All you would need is a directional antenna and a program that show signalstrength for a specific MAC adress.

Search...

"fox hunt" = 8

"foxhunt" = 3

Also look for "running man"

hotelwifi · 03-20-2005

Hi Groover:

Yes. Something that will let me see a particular MAC addresses signal strength on a real time basis. That way I could walk right up to the wireless client.

I can do that with Netstumbler, but I can only find APs with Netstumbler.

streaker69 · 03-20-2005

HotelWifi, couldn't you just keep AirSnare running, if you happen to find a MAC that is connected to your AP for a length of time that's beyond what a customer is staying at your hotel, add it to the MAC filter as a disallowed MAC? I don't know how busy your hotel is, but it might be one way to cut down on abusers. Then you're not spending the time tracking someone down by direction, just eliminating them through administration.

hotelwifi · 03-21-2005

Streaker69:

I like that idea. I'm not sure my DSA 3100 will let me put in a MAC address to dissallow. I'll have to check it out.

The DSA 3100 v B works great for me...unlike their v A, which was teeeeerible.

wrzwaldo · 03-21-2005

You may be able to do it through a "block all" filter rule to the offending MAC address. Page 41.

or

If you are not dealing with over 250 rooms you could create room accounts and provide the login and passwords at check-in. A bit more work to admin but less likely for stray users.

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hotelwifi Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NE Posts: 37	Hardware (or software) to find wireless clients? Netstumbler can be used with wireless PC card hardware, to find APs. But is there hardware and software to find wireless clients, that are connected to those APs? I ask because, I'm interested in being able to find wireless clients, who may be abusing the WiFi system I installed. I see their MAC addresses, but I need some kind of wireless software (like Netstumbler) &/or hardware, but made to find the wireless clients. Thanks

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Barry Managing the iTards. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,882	WTF!!! Oh man, why, why, why, why, why, why, did they have to ruin it.... __________________ Never do anything you don't want to explain to the paramedics.

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streaker69 Psychic Amish Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA Posts: 12,240	HotelWifi, couldn't you just keep AirSnare running, if you happen to find a MAC that is connected to your AP for a length of time that's beyond what a customer is staying at your hotel, add it to the MAC filter as a disallowed MAC? I don't know how busy your hotel is, but it might be one way to cut down on abusers. Then you're not spending the time tracking someone down by direction, just eliminating them through administration. __________________ Treat your gun like your genitals, only whip it out when it's absolutely necessary.

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wrzwaldo I amuse you? Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,147	You may be able to do it through a "block all" filter rule to the offending MAC address. Page 41. or If you are not dealing with over 250 rooms you could create room accounts and provide the login and passwords at check-in. A bit more work to admin but less likely for stray users. Last edited by wrzwaldo : 03-21-2005 at 05:29 PM.

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03-19-2005	#4 (permalink)
hotelwifi Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NE Posts: 37	Thank you both very much. I'll take a look for the Air Snare. I guess it will let me see a signal strength reading of the wireless clienet device, whose MAC address I'm trying to track down? Maybe something with a graph readout? Thanks,

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Groover Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Engelholm, sweden Posts: 9	Anyone played foxhunt? It's quite fun with some HAM entusiasts around here. It works like this, you triangulate a signal and first to find the beacon win (very short description). Is there any program that could work like this with a wifi client? All you would need is a directional antenna and a program that show signalstrength for a specific MAC adress.

03-20-2005	#10 (permalink)
hotelwifi Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NE Posts: 37	Hi Groover: Yes. Something that will let me see a particular MAC addresses signal strength on a real time basis. That way I could walk right up to the wireless client. I can do that with Netstumbler, but I can only find APs with Netstumbler.

03-21-2005	#12 (permalink)
hotelwifi Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NE Posts: 37	Streaker69: I like that idea. I'm not sure my DSA 3100 will let me put in a MAC address to dissallow. I'll have to check it out. The DSA 3100 v B works great for me...unlike their v A, which was teeeeerible.