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Old 04-03-2002   #1 (permalink)
 
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Is IBM card Orinoco Silver?

tigerdirect is out of the orinoco silver cards :-(
but they still have this ibm card:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=I71-1002
does anyone know if this is really an orinoco silver card?
i just bought some pigtails for orinoco and was wondering if anyone knows whether this card can use the orinoco pigtails for attaching an external antenna.
thanks.
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Old 04-04-2002   #2 (permalink)
 
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Yes, it absolutely is a rebranded Orinoco card. IBM sells a silver and a gold version. Tiger is selling the silver. It does have the same antenna connector as the Orinoco as I am using an Orinoco Ranger Extender Antenna on mine.

The only downside, is that IBM and other vendors (Dell TrueMobile) that rebrand the Orinoco, are slow to update firmware and drivers.
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Old 04-05-2002   #3 (permalink)
 
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can't you just use orinoco f/w on these cards?
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Old 04-06-2002   #4 (permalink)
 
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Well, sure if you want to hack it. The firmware update from Orinoco looks for an installed driver for the card. So you have to modify the inf file from the Orinoco driver so that it sees the IBM card in order to install the Orinoco driver. The ID byte in the pccard is different on the IBM card. Look in the IBM inf file for an example.

If you are using the Lucent driver, then you should be able to update the firmware.

You could also hex edit the Orinoco update program and change the text "Lucent ..." with the info on the IBM card. Not sure this will work though, as the text string from the IBM card is greater in length than the Lucent and using the entire IBM string makes the executable unusable. So I hacked the inf file.
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Old 04-06-2002   #5 (permalink)
 
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I had a similar question on a different thread...

You almost answered my question a little...I also have one of these IBM cards...and yes it has the external ant. conn....but what I was wanting, is hopefully you can give a little more detail on how you can update these cards w/ the Orinoco firmware, drivers, etc...and and all information would be greatly appreciated...you did a fine job with what you have given thus far, but if you could make a little bit more detailed write up that would be GREAT!!!
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Old 04-07-2002   #6 (permalink)
 
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Lucent at TigerDirect

Tiger Direct is also selling a Lucent card for $49.99:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=L78-1000

It's probably an Orinoco Silver, too.
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Old 04-07-2002   #7 (permalink)
 
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They are all sold out of the Orinoco silver cards are that are left are the rebranded IBM/ORinoco silver cards....b
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Old 04-07-2002   #8 (permalink)
 
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could you please give an example of the INI file you hacked to load up the Orinoco drivers for the IBM card...Please...
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Old 04-07-2002   #9 (permalink)
 
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Is this what you are talking about

ClassGUID={4d36e972-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}

If so then they are the same in both INI files...
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Old 04-07-2002   #10 (permalink)
 
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hmm

I got the lucent driver to install by replacing the description line (PCMCIA\Orinoco....) with the one from the IBM file.

I am wondering which one I should actually choose...there are options of 5V, Integrated and Mini PCI....I would assume 5V...

Even though the driver installs the client manager software still doesn't find the card and i can't do a firmware update.

HOwever it seems that the card itself comes up fine (with a green light)

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Old 04-07-2002   #11 (permalink)
 
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I'm at that same point now...I managed to get the driver to install now, but I can't get the firmware program to recognize the card is there...I replaced the same lines I beleive you did and now I have the 5V drivers installed, the client manager doesn't see the card either, neither does the IBM client manager so it seems its in a limbo...I'm wondering if I can ever get the firmware to take if it will become a Orinoco silver card and I never have to mess w/ the IBM stuff ever again...or atleast thats what I'm shootin for...since IBM takes forever and a day to do any kinda updateing...especially since they've went to all internal wireless...
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Old 04-07-2002   #12 (permalink)
 
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UPDATE on the big prob...

well I discovered this in the firmware update readme.txt

Driver Version
This WSU is only compatible with Windows Miniport Drivers of
Release 6.1 (v 6.14) or higher.

well doin some research I only have ver 5.0.2175.1...now here is the big question where do I get a higher version of this driver...
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Old 04-08-2002   #13 (permalink)
 
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Well I've tried everything to get the firmware and/or the client manager to work with the IBM card...The only success I had was getting the drivers installed, but I'm not sure if that was even a step forward, from what I can deduct the miniport driver is too low of a version, the things I have tried are starting with the earliest version of drivers and progress my way up, installing in different orders, and some other misc. stuff that after I did them made no since at all...If anyone can figure this out my hats off to ya, and please don't hold it to yourself...share the wealth...Thanks...
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Old 04-09-2002   #14 (permalink)
 
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anyone have any ideas for this one?

i am still at the same spot

i have drivers installed but neither client manager nor fw update finds the card

thx
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Old 04-18-2002   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Lucent at TigerDirect

Quote:
Originally posted by WEP-2600
Tiger Direct is also selling a Lucent card for $49.99:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...p?sku=L78-1000

It's probably an Orinoco Silver, too.
It should be Gold card since it specifes 104 bit encryption which is the same as 128 (like 40 and 64 bit encryption being equal)
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