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06-02-2004
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Linksys Wap54 users..?
My secoond attempt at posting here so hopefully i wont screw it up this time..
 Im totaly new to the whole wifi business so go easy... I just went out and bought a wap54g, i see there seems to be several firmware upgrades giving more output power (upto 82mw) isnt there a legal issue for that here in the uk? Can anyone reccomend a good firmware upgrade for the 54? and post a link. I guess im right (after reading for sometime) that i cannot use netstumbler with this as it is an ap and i need a wireless nic? is there any other software that can be used with the 54 that can "scan" local area's? I dont intend to be mobile with my setup so im thinking of a nice 20+ directional yagi and maybe a rotator, any thoughts on this..? Thanks for any input, sorry im a real noob on this. Anyone know where i can buy "wireless for dummies"  Cmon guys give a noob a clue..
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Jeff Duntemann's Drive-by Wi-Fi Guide (now with a second edition) Wardriving: Drive, Detect, Defend These guys know their stuff, highly recommended. Renderman and Thorn both have information available on their sites and audit has done an excellent job on MichiganWireless.org. The FAQ's here are also a good source of information.
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Did you do the math?
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06-02-2004
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Ok off on holidays this week so ive orderd some books to read on the beach..
"Wardriving - Drive, Detect, Defend: A Guide to Wireless Security" and "Wireless Hacks: 100 Industrial Strength Tips and Tools" cause it was on offer at amazon.. So after doing a little reading this evening(correct me if im wrong plz) I need to get a wireless nic (suggestions) and all my ap does is connect "me" wirelessly to my router..? is the 54 acting just as a bridge/amplifier then? And as all this kit is going to be static is a directional antenna on a rotator viable? At least ive ordered the books guys....carnt say i aint trying.. yes im very trying.. 
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Did you do the math?
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If you want one for NS use only, then the best is still the ORiNOCO Classic. Quote:
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Suggestion: Start off slow. Get the WLAN going. Once you've played with that, and have learned a bit about how wireless networking actually works, then decide if you want to make the investment for the other kit.
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06-02-2004
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If you insist on running high power, you must throw out the antenna's that are supplied with the thing and put on a decent antenna. i tested the swr using a 2.4ghz directional coupler and an hp mW meter, and the match at the default setting is not bad, 1.8:1 but as you go up in power, things get bad quick. 2.1:1 at 50mw 3.6:1 at 84 mw and a frightning 3.9:1 using the 100mw hardware mod. in other words, if you want to run power over the manufacturers setting, you really should have some equipment capable of mesuring reflected power. just me $0.02 |
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06-03-2004
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Thanks for the info so far...
I will read the books(if they get here on time) while lying on my beach in the sun..  Pity i carnt waredrive using my sony erricsson p900... spain and back would be a good run... No wardriving software for the symbian o/s i guess then..
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Did you do the math?
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Don't mistunderstand; if you get through W:DDD and the Wireless Hacks book, then great! But if they assume that you know something and you're scratching your head, Jeff's book is more of a general guide to WiFi and should fill in the gaps. (Jeff also is on these forums as "Novilio".)
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06-03-2004
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Again thanks all for the info..
Thorn i will look to buy Jeff Duntemmann's book also..mayeb i can buy it at the airport before i take off.. On a wirless nic note i found this.. (ok to post link in here?) http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...?ProductID=710 To be honest ive delt in networking for some number of years but have never come across orinoco..but that may be a uk thing. I guess that nic will be ok then and will work with my linksys wap54g ok? anyone using one? On another note, whats the cheapest way to wardrive without a laptop? im thinking of maping my local area purley for research purposes. Maybe a cheap pda setup? and antenna for the car... Thanks all.. sorry for the dumb ass questions one more.. Ahhh yes Mother can you name any nice places to vist while im in your home town..
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02-12-2005
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Get Blotto, Play Lotto!
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I am looking at getting the WAP54G but I don't have any wireless computers ... yet, but I am trying to find out (without much luck) if it is possible to access the browser interface over standard wired ethernet systems.
I am considering getting this AP but don't want to have it turned on all the time but not configured for security or anything so that people in my neighborhood can use my internet. If someone can confirm if accessing the interface from wired PCs is possible it would be great. I figure it is possible, but Linksys just answered my question with 'you access the interface with a browser' they completely ignored my question about wired connections to the AP. Thanks.
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02-12-2005
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Get Blotto, Play Lotto!
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Yeah that what I figured. If you stuff up badly you need to be able to ket back in and fix it.
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02-14-2005
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Get Blotto, Play Lotto!
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Another thought
Since this WAP seems pretty popular and some people are mention power hacks and new antennas for it. I have 2 questions mainly related to these two items.
1. To what extend to you have to 'mod' the WAP for the power boosts? Heatsinks, cutting, fans etc. 2. What are suitable replacement antennas that could boost performance without the power hacks? Thanks.
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