Linksys Wireless-G Card

squashplayer · 03-07-2003

Hello, two issues, first, while installing Net Stumble I got the following message: "Error Opening File for Writing: C\Windows\System32\w32n50.dll Hit abort to abort installation, retryto retry writing the file, or ignore to skip this file"

I choose to ignore, so, of course I cannot seem to make the program connect.......helpppppppppppp.

Also, are there special settings I should use to configure the device to work with the software or settings I should configure on the software?

netrambler · 03-07-2003

I didn't think that they had even ratified the 802.11g specification.

In any case, from the netstumlberDOTcom website:

Quote:

· Will NetStumbler work on 802.11a cards?
Yes, in Windows XP.

However, doesn't say anything about 802.11g cards. Your best bet is to try it in Windows XP. If it's going to work anywhere, it will work there.

squashplayer · 03-07-2003

Thanks for your quick reply :-) But, I am unsure what you mean by "best bet is to try it in WINXP" ?

Could you elaborate (sorry for my ignorance on this subject, I am new to WIFI

netrambler · 03-07-2003

NDIS are Windows drivers availabe for wireless cards that might work with NetStumbler. The best option is to try to use NetStumlber with the latest NDIS version drivers in Windows XP.

FYI, as quoted from Thorn:

Quote:

NetStumbler will NOT work with Win95, Win98, Win98SE, WinME and any card with the Prism chipsets. It will only work with the above on cards using the Hermes chipset.

It may work under Win2k and WinXP, using NDIS drivers, but this is not guaranteed. Some people get it to work right away, some after varying degrees of difficulty, and others never get it to work.

For more information, check out the netstumbler website. There you will find more information about which cards will work with NetStumbler, what OS's among other things.

nstrupp · 03-12-2003

I've been using a Linksys-G card for a few days now with the included Linksys drivers and utilities. I ran into the same error during install. The problem only occurs when the Linksys utilities are running when you install NS. To fix this, be sure to close any Linksys utilities. You'll need to look in the system tray and close it from there as that's where it sits when you close the window. Once close, running the install should be successful.

-Nick

acropolis · 03-14-2003

To use the Linksys 802.11g card in Windows XP (with Service Pack 1... you do have Service Pack 1 installed, right?) DO NOT install the Linksys helper program. Windows should automatically recognize the new device and ask for drivers. Put in the CD-ROM and have it install the drivers.

The Linksys helper program does what Windows XP has already and so you will have the problem of two pieces of software fighting over one piece of hardware and then nothing will work (or if you are like me you will have them constantly switching [and disconnecting you] every 5 or 10 seconds)

bkehoe · 03-14-2003

I was messing around today and took the minipci card out of a WAP54G and put it into my Dell laptop; nowhere to plug the antenna though i was just trying it out. Used the linksys drivers for their pci card and it worked fine, even in Netstumbler, in win2k with the NDIS driver.

CZroe · 03-30-2003

I have two Belkin 802.11b Prism chipset cards and a Linksys Wireless-G card. I can not figure out how to install the Belkin cards without the Belkin software! I either get it installed as a standard Ethernet card with NO XP wireless options or I get a big fat "!" in Device Manager and get some crap about it being "required to boot" the PC when I try to remove it. Where are the "NDIS" drivers?

With the Linksys card, I simply pointed XP to the extracted driver without installing the custom software and it worked flawlessly. I've tried forcing the Belkin to accept it's own drivers this way but it will not work without the software (See above). I've tried Intersil reference drivers, but they don't seem to "see" my card.

A little help?

moonphoenix · 04-11-2003

NDIS drivers under XP.
I've tried a Belkin F5D6020 PCMCIA and a Linksys Wireless-G PCMCIA card and with both when selecting to use NDIS it says 'The system cannot find the path specified' in the status bar (I'm not using any of the client helper software for either, its configured for XP zero-wireless config, with the latest ms update)

What do I need to install from where to make this work??????

CZroe · 05-31-2003

Still working on it here. The Belkin software setup has always had a "Use XP zero configuration" but it's a lie. All it does is disable the tray icon but the only configuration you can get is still the Belkin customized one.

With the Linksys, I just extract the Linksys drivers and point XP to 'em and I can use XP's built-in wireless configuration utility.

Using a standard utility in order to avoid having an array of proprietary software, not NDIS drivers, is my main concern (However, getting these to work would assuredly NOT require the manufacturer's utility).

moonphoenix · 06-01-2003

I have got xp zero wireless config to work on xp, but had to update the secondary firmware to the latest version 1st. It took a fair bit of searching to find the correct version firmware though

Strokerace · 06-04-2003

I am using W2K with SP3 and I get the same error when installing netstumbler. I chose to ignore it and the program sort of works. I have the linksys g card and its scanning program does not detect the connect, but netstumbler does. But that is it. Can't get on to the network. I think this program needs alot of work yet to work on W2K, as XP sucks. I am trying it on a toshiba laptop and will try it on my Dell to see if theres any difference. I know that this is a good connection as I was with the network admin and he connected to it with his card. Its a demo set-up to promote wireless access to cable subscribers.

Thorn · 06-04-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Strokerace
... Can't get on to the network. I think this program needs alot of work yet to work on W2K, as XP sucks. ...

You're not supposed to connect to the network using NetStumbler. That is not its purpose. It is a detection tool, pure and simple. Nothing in the program is designed to allow you to connect.

Read the FAQ and the FAQ threads before complaining it isn't working correctly.

To connect, you have use the card's client manager, and NS should not be running.

Strokerace · 06-04-2003

I must appoligies here. I did not mean it to sound like that it needs to be fixed so you can connect with it. What I was trying to say, even though I found the connection and the proper channel to use, I could not get on the network. I KNOW that you can't connect with netstumbler. But as far as an app goes for finding open connections, its very weak and needs alot more work. The network scanner that comes with my card worked just as good.One thing that it keeps doing is showing me my own card and MAC address which I really don't care about. If this is for tesing the security of a wireless network, it sucked. Languard does a better job.

Thorn · 06-04-2003

Like all tools, it depends on what you are attempting to do, and whether it fits the job. To a certain extent it also depends on your skill level, and the effort that you put making it work for you.

I can't comment on LANguard, as I've not used it. I'd not even heard of it before your last post. However, from looking at the GFI site, it appears to be a general LAN security suite of tools, and nothing wireless specific. There is no mention of things like SNR, Signal levels, etc. From a RF viewpoint, that is even worse the "it sucks." Basically, it makes it useless. Again, it depends on what you are attempting to do, and the whether the product fits the job.

03-07-2003	#1 (permalink)
squashplayer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2	Linksys Wireless-G Card Hello, two issues, first, while installing Net Stumble I got the following message: "Error Opening File for Writing: C\Windows\System32\w32n50.dll Hit abort to abort installation, retryto retry writing the file, or ignore to skip this file" I choose to ignore, so, of course I cannot seem to make the program connect.......helpppppppppppp. Also, are there special settings I should use to configure the device to work with the software or settings I should configure on the software?

03-07-2003	#3 (permalink)
squashplayer Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2	RE Linksys Wireless-G Thanks for your quick reply :-) But, I am unsure what you mean by "best bet is to try it in WINXP" ? Could you elaborate (sorry for my ignorance on this subject, I am new to WIFI

03-14-2003	#6 (permalink)
acropolis Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Denton, TX Posts: 6	To use the Linksys 802.11g card in Windows XP (with Service Pack 1... you do have Service Pack 1 installed, right?) DO NOT install the Linksys helper program. Windows should automatically recognize the new device and ask for drivers. Put in the CD-ROM and have it install the drivers. The Linksys helper program does what Windows XP has already and so you will have the problem of two pieces of software fighting over one piece of hardware and then nothing will work (or if you are like me you will have them constantly switching [and disconnecting you] every 5 or 10 seconds) __________________ Eric Weiss http://eric.weiss.net

04-11-2003	#9 (permalink)
moonphoenix Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2	NDIS drivers under XP. NDIS drivers under XP. I've tried a Belkin F5D6020 PCMCIA and a Linksys Wireless-G PCMCIA card and with both when selecting to use NDIS it says 'The system cannot find the path specified' in the status bar (I'm not using any of the client helper software for either, its configured for XP zero-wireless config, with the latest ms update) What do I need to install from where to make this work??????

06-04-2003	#12 (permalink)
Strokerace Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2	I have the same problem I am using W2K with SP3 and I get the same error when installing netstumbler. I chose to ignore it and the program sort of works. I have the linksys g card and its scanning program does not detect the connect, but netstumbler does. But that is it. Can't get on to the network. I think this program needs alot of work yet to work on W2K, as XP sucks. I am trying it on a toshiba laptop and will try it on my Dell to see if theres any difference. I know that this is a good connection as I was with the network admin and he connected to it with his card. Its a demo set-up to promote wireless access to cable subscribers.

03-12-2003	#5 (permalink)
nstrupp Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2	I've been using a Linksys-G card for a few days now with the included Linksys drivers and utilities. I ran into the same error during install. The problem only occurs when the Linksys utilities are running when you install NS. To fix this, be sure to close any Linksys utilities. You'll need to look in the system tray and close it from there as that's where it sits when you close the window. Once close, running the install should be successful. -Nick

03-14-2003	#7 (permalink)
bkehoe Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 20	I was messing around today and took the minipci card out of a WAP54G and put it into my Dell laptop; nowhere to plug the antenna though i was just trying it out. Used the linksys drivers for their pci card and it worked fine, even in Netstumbler, in win2k with the NDIS driver.

03-30-2003	#8 (permalink)
CZroe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 38	I have two Belkin 802.11b Prism chipset cards and a Linksys Wireless-G card. I can not figure out how to install the Belkin cards without the Belkin software! I either get it installed as a standard Ethernet card with NO XP wireless options or I get a big fat "!" in Device Manager and get some crap about it being "required to boot" the PC when I try to remove it. Where are the "NDIS" drivers? With the Linksys card, I simply pointed XP to the extracted driver without installing the custom software and it worked flawlessly. I've tried forcing the Belkin to accept it's own drivers this way but it will not work without the software (See above). I've tried Intersil reference drivers, but they don't seem to "see" my card. A little help?

05-31-2003	#10 (permalink)
CZroe Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 38	Still working on it here. The Belkin software setup has always had a "Use XP zero configuration" but it's a lie. All it does is disable the tray icon but the only configuration you can get is still the Belkin customized one. With the Linksys, I just extract the Linksys drivers and point XP to 'em and I can use XP's built-in wireless configuration utility. Using a standard utility in order to avoid having an array of proprietary software, not NDIS drivers, is my main concern (However, getting these to work would assuredly NOT require the manufacturer's utility).

06-01-2003	#11 (permalink)
moonphoenix Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2	I have got xp zero wireless config to work on xp, but had to update the secondary firmware to the latest version 1st. It took a fair bit of searching to find the correct version firmware though

06-04-2003	#14 (permalink)
Strokerace Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2	A slight error I must appoligies here. I did not mean it to sound like that it needs to be fixed so you can connect with it. What I was trying to say, even though I found the connection and the proper channel to use, I could not get on the network. I KNOW that you can't connect with netstumbler. But as far as an app goes for finding open connections, its very weak and needs alot more work. The network scanner that comes with my card worked just as good.One thing that it keeps doing is showing me my own card and MAC address which I really don't care about. If this is for tesing the security of a wireless network, it sucked. Languard does a better job.

06-04-2003	#15 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,359	Like all tools, it depends on what you are attempting to do, and whether it fits the job. To a certain extent it also depends on your skill level, and the effort that you put making it work for you. I can't comment on LANguard, as I've not used it. I'd not even heard of it before your last post. However, from looking at the GFI site, it appears to be a general LAN security suite of tools, and nothing wireless specific. There is no mention of things like SNR, Signal levels, etc. From a RF viewpoint, that is even worse the "it sucks." Basically, it makes it useless. Again, it depends on what you are attempting to do, and the whether the product fits the job. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"

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