Lucent silver to gold - Page 4

vu2vu · 07-11-2003

norm, i wish it was that easy. i could be wrong, but that means my card is really dead.

peekitty · 07-11-2003

vu2vu, I'd suggest starting a new "rescue my Truemobile" thread detailing your problem and with links to the utility, ect. I imagine that dozens of helpful people on this forum have Dell cards, but you need to get their attention...

lincomatic · 07-11-2003

i have access to a truemobile at work. i'll try to get a dump for you today. i was just hoping someone else would get it for you so i wouldn't have to take my AP apart...

norm · 07-11-2003

would if i could.

tell me the parameters you used when reading off the .pda

lincomatic · 07-11-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by norm
would if i could.

tell me the parameters you used when reading off the .pda

just the standard

flash -5v -pd dell.pda

lincomatic · 07-12-2003

vu2vu,

bad luck. i tried dumping the PDA of my truemobile card on 2 different laptops, and it just hangs after "Startup..." so i can't help you

on another note, i really don't think the 322 error is caused by PCMCIA hardware; rather, it is a characteristic of the silver cards themselves. now i've tried a whole boatload of machines: dell inspiron 3000, inspiron 3500, winbook xli, winbook xl2, compaq presario 1800US, and sharp pc-9050 (as well as 2 toshibas which i couldn't talk to the PCMCIA controller on), and all failed with error 322

vu2vu · 07-12-2003

thanks for all the help guys. well here's the details of my experience.

Compaq 900z

-read card using -legacy switch
-errored out when trying to program
-Texas instruments pcmcia chipset

Sony Viao (don't know model)

-read card without -legacy switch
-programed card without any errors.
-re-read card and confirmed changes
-Ricoh Pcmcia chipset.

Hopefully someone will be able to help me.

I really think its a chipset issue. If I had a floppy in my hp notebook I would try it there. Can you guys post what chipsets you are using?

JimmyPopAli · 07-12-2003

intel 82365

Spammy · 07-12-2003

It worked!

I've got an Orinoco (proper) Silver. Details...

card: variant 1, 4.00
primary: variant 1, 4.04
station: variant 2, 8.10

(Lincomatic - EXACTLY the same as your one that failed!).

I didnt perform the hack in my laptop... I did it in a desktop machine with a PCI-PCMCIA adaptor. The PC uses the trusty old Intel 440BX chipset, and the cardbus controller is a Texas Instruments one (sorry don't have the number to hand).

Going to try removing the branding on my elsa and IBM cards now.

EDIT: The PCMCIA controller is a TI1410 Cardbus controller

I removed the identifier bits from the PDA for the IBM card, and rewrote the PDA, but the Orinoco client manager still refused to read it. So I then wrote the Orinoco Silver's (modded to gold) PDA onto it... with the same result (even after reinstalling the driver as an Orinoco PC Card (5 Volt).

Sam

lincomatic · 07-12-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Spammy
It worked!

I've got an Orinoco (proper) Silver. Details...

card: variant 1, 4.00
primary: variant 1, 4.04
station: variant 2, 8.10

(Licomatic - EXACTLY the same as your one that failed!).

I didnt perform the hack in my laptop... I did it in a desktop machine with a PCI-PCMCIA adaptor. The PC uses the trusty old Intel 440BX chipset, and the cardbus controller is a Texas Instruments one (sorry don't have the number to hand).

Going to try removing the branding on my elsa and IBM cards now.

EDIT: The PCMCIA controller is a TI1410 Cardbus controller
I removed the identifier bits from the PDA for the IBM card, and rewrote the PDA, but the Orinoco client manager still refused to read it. So I then wrote the Orinoco Silver's (modded to gold) PDA onto it... with the same result (even after reinstalling the driver as an Orinoco PC Card (5 Volt).

Sam

ok, so you proved my theory wrong. i think most of my laptops have TI controllers too. i'll try to get the model #'s out to see what the diff really is. do you remember the PCI vid/pid of your
TI controller (it's the [xxxx,xxxx] number the flasher prints out).

to rebrand the card, hacking the PDA is not enough. you need to modify the CIS to be the same as on the Lucent-branded card. the CIS contains the identifying info & strings which brand the card.

Spammy · 07-12-2003

Thanks lincomatic... got the results right here now....

"Using [104C,AC50] 0:9:0 TI PCI1410 PC Card Controller (onboard minipci)"

That right?

Regarding the CIS... do you know how to replace that?

Sam

Edit: There's a couple of us discussing it on #netstumbler (EFNet) at the moment. Drop by if you like

lincomatic · 07-12-2003

thanks for the info, Sam.

there is some info about programming the CIS in the flash.pdf that comes w/ the flash.exe... but it's rather complicated, and i don't even know if it will work on the orinoco cards. one of the problems is that it uses HEX files, but the utility doesn't even dump in HEX format. you can view your current CIS with -cd.

Spammy · 07-12-2003

Brilliant, thanks for that.

The utility does dump the CIS in HEX format (with the -cd filename) parameter like you said.

Problem is, I wouldn't have a clue what to edit in there.

I've got a Cisco 350 (PCM352 and LMC352) UK based - meaning I get 13 channels, but only 50mW.

Is there anyone out there able to do a dump of their Cisco 350 in the USA? The command is:

flash -5v -cd cisco.hex

Would be very much appreciated!

Oh yeah.... drop by #netstumbler sometime... it's qucker than writing these out and waiting for a reply sometimes!

Thanks

Sam

lincomatic · 07-12-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Spammy
Brilliant, thanks for that.

The utility does dump the CIS in HEX format (with the -cd filename) parameter like you said.

Problem is, I wouldn't have a clue what to edit in there.
Sam

if you can actually figure out how to program the CIS properly, don't have to edit it; someone who has a Lucent-branded Silver
(such as i) can just send you a CIS dump.

Spammy · 07-12-2003

Hmmm, that's just it though, working out how to program the CIS without having the program the boot block and firmware.

Stargo (the guy who first posted the fix via Flash.exe) has been in #netstumbler and we were talking over other things which could be set in the PDA (other than Silver/Gold and Reg Domain). Most notably: output power.

We thought that the Orinoco's PDA's were very simmilar, with the exception of the Silver/gold line and lines beginning 103 and 104. However, I did a PDA dump of my IBM orinoco (the dual one) and got a very different PDA. This PDA, and others, can be found at:

http://www.ph0x.co.uk/~sam/orinoco/

stargo pointed out that if you changed the "7ff" on line 103 to "1fff", you are changing the domain from US (11 channels) to EU (13 channels). The IBM PDA has the 7ff string, whereas my UK orinoco has the 1fff string.

Regards

Sam

07-11-2003	#48 (permalink)
lincomatic Squaaawk! WiFi! WiFi! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tinsel Town Posts: 1,682	i have access to a truemobile at work. i'll try to get a dump for you today. i was just hoping someone else would get it for you so i wouldn't have to take my AP apart... __________________ ~lincomatic

07-12-2003	#51 (permalink)
lincomatic Squaaawk! WiFi! WiFi! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tinsel Town Posts: 1,682	vu2vu, bad luck. i tried dumping the PDA of my truemobile card on 2 different laptops, and it just hangs after "Startup..." so i can't help you on another note, i really don't think the 322 error is caused by PCMCIA hardware; rather, it is a characteristic of the silver cards themselves. now i've tried a whole boatload of machines: dell inspiron 3000, inspiron 3500, winbook xli, winbook xl2, compaq presario 1800US, and sharp pc-9050 (as well as 2 toshibas which i couldn't talk to the PCMCIA controller on), and all failed with error 322 __________________ ~lincomatic

07-12-2003	#52 (permalink)
vu2vu Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6	thanks for all the help guys. well here's the details of my experience. Compaq 900z -read card using -legacy switch -errored out when trying to program -Texas instruments pcmcia chipset Sony Viao (don't know model) -read card without -legacy switch -programed card without any errors. -re-read card and confirmed changes -Ricoh Pcmcia chipset. Hopefully someone will be able to help me. I really think its a chipset issue. If I had a floppy in my hp notebook I would try it there. Can you guys post what chipsets you are using? Last edited by vu2vu : 07-12-2003 at 03:04 AM.

07-12-2003	#54 (permalink)
Spammy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 78	It worked! I've got an Orinoco (proper) Silver. Details... card: variant 1, 4.00 primary: variant 1, 4.04 station: variant 2, 8.10 (Lincomatic - EXACTLY the same as your one that failed!). I didnt perform the hack in my laptop... I did it in a desktop machine with a PCI-PCMCIA adaptor. The PC uses the trusty old Intel 440BX chipset, and the cardbus controller is a Texas Instruments one (sorry don't have the number to hand). Going to try removing the branding on my elsa and IBM cards now. EDIT: The PCMCIA controller is a TI1410 Cardbus controller I removed the identifier bits from the PDA for the IBM card, and rewrote the PDA, but the Orinoco client manager still refused to read it. So I then wrote the Orinoco Silver's (modded to gold) PDA onto it... with the same result (even after reinstalling the driver as an Orinoco PC Card (5 Volt). Sam __________________ Panasonic Toughbook CF-M34 \| Cisco 350 \| Dual-MC Orinoco Card(s) Broke AP-1000 \| Lancom IL-11 \| 2x D-Link 1500 Bridge And more antenna's than you can shake a stick at Last edited by Spammy : 07-12-2003 at 01:45 PM.

07-12-2003	#56 (permalink)
Spammy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 78	Thanks lincomatic... got the results right here now.... "Using [104C,AC50] 0:9:0 TI PCI1410 PC Card Controller (onboard minipci)" That right? Regarding the CIS... do you know how to replace that? Sam Edit: There's a couple of us discussing it on #netstumbler (EFNet) at the moment. Drop by if you like __________________ Panasonic Toughbook CF-M34 \| Cisco 350 \| Dual-MC Orinoco Card(s) Broke AP-1000 \| Lancom IL-11 \| 2x D-Link 1500 Bridge And more antenna's than you can shake a stick at Last edited by Spammy : 07-12-2003 at 02:21 PM.

07-11-2003	#46 (permalink)
vu2vu Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6	norm, i wish it was that easy. i could be wrong, but that means my card is really dead.

07-11-2003	#47 (permalink)
peekitty Macaca Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 1,056	vu2vu, I'd suggest starting a new "rescue my Truemobile" thread detailing your problem and with links to the utility, ect. I imagine that dozens of helpful people on this forum have Dell cards, but you need to get their attention...

07-11-2003	#49 (permalink)
norm Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: UK Posts: 69	would if i could. tell me the parameters you used when reading off the .pda

07-12-2003	#53 (permalink)
JimmyPopAli Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Washington the state Posts: 242	intel 82365

07-12-2003	#57 (permalink)
lincomatic Squaaawk! WiFi! WiFi! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tinsel Town Posts: 1,682	thanks for the info, Sam. there is some info about programming the CIS in the flash.pdf that comes w/ the flash.exe... but it's rather complicated, and i don't even know if it will work on the orinoco cards. one of the problems is that it uses HEX files, but the utility doesn't even dump in HEX format. you can view your current CIS with -cd. __________________ ~lincomatic

07-12-2003	#58 (permalink)
Spammy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 78	Brilliant, thanks for that. The utility does dump the CIS in HEX format (with the -cd filename) parameter like you said. Problem is, I wouldn't have a clue what to edit in there. I've got a Cisco 350 (PCM352 and LMC352) UK based - meaning I get 13 channels, but only 50mW. Is there anyone out there able to do a dump of their Cisco 350 in the USA? The command is: flash -5v -cd cisco.hex Would be very much appreciated! Oh yeah.... drop by #netstumbler sometime... it's qucker than writing these out and waiting for a reply sometimes! Thanks Sam __________________ Panasonic Toughbook CF-M34 \| Cisco 350 \| Dual-MC Orinoco Card(s) Broke AP-1000 \| Lancom IL-11 \| 2x D-Link 1500 Bridge And more antenna's than you can shake a stick at

07-12-2003	#60 (permalink)
Spammy Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bournemouth, UK Posts: 78	Hmmm, that's just it though, working out how to program the CIS without having the program the boot block and firmware. Stargo (the guy who first posted the fix via Flash.exe) has been in #netstumbler and we were talking over other things which could be set in the PDA (other than Silver/Gold and Reg Domain). Most notably: output power. We thought that the Orinoco's PDA's were very simmilar, with the exception of the Silver/gold line and lines beginning 103 and 104. However, I did a PDA dump of my IBM orinoco (the dual one) and got a very different PDA. This PDA, and others, can be found at: http://www.ph0x.co.uk/~sam/orinoco/ stargo pointed out that if you changed the "7ff" on line 103 to "1fff", you are changing the domain from US (11 channels) to EU (13 channels). The IBM PDA has the 7ff string, whereas my UK orinoco has the 1fff string. Regards Sam __________________ Panasonic Toughbook CF-M34 \| Cisco 350 \| Dual-MC Orinoco Card(s) Broke AP-1000 \| Lancom IL-11 \| 2x D-Link 1500 Bridge And more antenna's than you can shake a stick at

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