Lucent silver to gold - Page 9

Evil2000 · 04-18-2004

The Linux way doesn't work for me:
When I try to flash my PDA to the card, it says "error, you must specify a pda location"

BlahBoy · 04-19-2004

My Compaq laptop has a Texas Instruments PCI-1211 PCMCIA adaptor, which is listed in flash.ini. flash.exe reads the pda fine, but flashold.exe cannot upload the edited pda, giving the 322 error.

My desktop has a Ricoh-based PCMCIA PCI adaptor. I got flash.exe to read by editing the first definition in flash.ini, by changing 476 to 475. Unfortunately flashold.exe does not recognise it.

So, at this point, I am unable to write an edited PDA to my RoamAbout cards.

McHale · 04-19-2004

as soon as we find someone with the programming skills, this won't be an issue much longer. I have all of the Orinoco development kits and it has enough info to write a custom utility to do it or write a custom driver so it's not an issue any longer.

It's been almost 10 years since I did any quality programming so I can't do it. I started a thread asking to see who could code in C or C++ but it was moved to "off topic" - that was a big help... thanks for that by the way.

Anyway, long story short, we know enough about the PDA to do what we want. The development kits give code examples and all the details to write a utility to read the pda or flash, and write it back. I just need to find someone who understands wireless and programming who is willing to take the time.

Until that time, I'm looking for alternate methods to do it. I have about 6 different versions of that flash utility and all are giving different results and by changing options, I get even more results.

I'd like to see a windows utility that allows you to view and edit the channels, MAC, serial number, silver to gold, etc. Also, it would be nice to rewrite the windows driver to allow promiscuous mode but that's not important right now...

God, how I ramble...

ANYWAY, for those of us who can't get this to work using flash, be patient. There's a LOT of people working on it and soon enough, someone is going to figure it all out. But keep trying...

-Mc

dda · 04-19-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by McHale

as soon as we find someone with the programming skills, this won't be an issue much longer. I have all of the Orinoco development kits and it has enough info to write a custom utility to do it or write a custom driver so it's not an issue any longer.

I've done C (no C++) development and Windows development but both were a little while ago. What are the development kits like and for which programming IDE are the examples?

Corvette_Lee · 04-22-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlahBoy

My Compaq laptop has a Texas Instruments PCI-1211 PCMCIA adaptor, which is listed in flash.ini. flash.exe reads the pda fine, but flashold.exe cannot upload the edited pda, giving the 322 error.

My desktop has a Ricoh-based PCMCIA PCI adaptor. I got flash.exe to read by editing the first definition in flash.ini, by changing 476 to 475. Unfortunately flashold.exe does not recognise it.

So, at this point, I am unable to write an edited PDA to my RoamAbout cards.

For ALL...

only cards with primary firmware 3.02, 4.02 and 4.04

flash -5v -pd card.pda
edit card.pda (change: silver->Gold, channel, domain)
flash -5v -on
flash -5v -g -p card.pda

or

flash -5v -legacy -pd card.pda
edit card.pda (change: silver->Gold, channel, domain)
flash -5v -legacy -on
flash -5v -legacy -g -p card.pda

my problem now is can not change cards with primary firmware 3.00 and 4.00

Lee

McHale · 04-22-2004

hmmmm... so if I'm reading this properly, ALL cards that are 3.02, 4.02, and 4.04, if you can read the card, you should be able to write the card.

But if you have 3.0 or 4.0, no dice.

right?

My big question is, who has a primary function of anything but 3.0 or 4.0? I went through about 15 cards here (white, bronze, silver, gold) and they were all 4.0.

So if we find a way to upgrade the primary to 4.02 or 4.04, this will work?

Can anyone who has successfully upgraded confirm?

-Mc

Corvette_Lee · 04-22-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by McHale

hmmmm... so if I'm reading this properly, ALL cards that are 3.02, 4.02, and 4.04, if you can read the card, you should be able to write the card.

But if you have 3.0 or 4.0, no dice.

right?

My big question is, who has a primary function of anything but 3.0 or 4.0? I went through about 15 cards here (white, bronze, silver, gold) and they were all 4.0.

So if we find a way to upgrade the primary to 4.02 or 4.04, this will work?

Can anyone who has successfully upgraded confirm?

-Mc

Mi Inglés es malo, por eso voy a escribirles en español.

Todas las tarjetas con firmware primario 3.02, 4.02 y 4.04 conseguí gravar el PDA devuelta para la tarjeta, a excepción de algunas tarjetas nuevas que tienen metal de PCMCIA sellado no conseguí actualizar el PDA (las que no tienen remaches al costado y que tienen metales como cascara de huevo)

mi problemas es que las mayorías de tarjetas wavelan tienen firmware 3.0 (Bronze) o 4.0 (wavelan silver turbo y algunas tarjetas antiguas Orinoco silver)

he encontrado hasta ahora 3 tarjeta bronze con firmware primario 3.02 que conseguí cambiar la linea 104 7ff para 3fff y gravar con éxito.

así que si alguien consigue actualizar el firmware primario 4.0 para 4.02 o 4.04 , vamos poder cambiar todas las tarjetas.

leí el manual de Prism flash ultility de punta a punta y no encuentro como bajar el firmware primario así poder cargar en otro tarjeta que tienen firmware 4.0.

Saludos
Lee

gamr343 · 04-22-2004

Hi, if you cant speak english, go to world.altavista.com for a quick and easy, not to mention reliable translation.

Translated into spanish using world.altavista.com

Hi, si usted linado habla inglés, vaya a world.altavista.com para un rápido y fácil, no mencionar la traducción confiable.

He suposedly said:

My English is bad, for that reason I am going to write to them in Spanish. All the cards with firmware primary 3,02, 4,02 and 4,04 I was able to burden the PDA given back for the card, with the exception of some new cards that have sealed metal of PCMCIA I was not able to update the PDA (those that does not have rivets to the flank and that has metals as it cracked of egg) my problems are that the majorities of cards wavelan have firmware 3,0 (Bronze) or 4,0 (they wavelan to silver I disturb and some old cards Orinoco to silver) I have found until now 3 primary card bronze with firmware 3,02 that I was able to change to line 104 7ff for 3fff and to burden successfully. so if somebody is able to update firmware primary 4,0 for 4,02 or 4,04, we go to be able to change all cards. I read manual of Prism the flash ultility of end to end and nonencounter like lowering firmware primary thus to be able to load in another card that has firmware 4.0. Greetings Lee

LoganDzwon · 04-23-2004

What on earth does that mean? Is there any hope we can get a bronze or white card to support 128-bit

dda · 04-23-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganDzwon

What on earth does that mean? Is there any hope we can get a bronze or white card to support 128-bit

If by white you mean Silver, the answer is yes since my Silver card is (now) quite happy to do 128-bit WEP. I also patched it to listen on all 14 channels while I was at it.

I think the Bronze is limited to 2MB in hardware (as opposed to the PDA) but I'm not sure. The Silver card on eBay tends to be fairly cheap; I got mine for $15 + shipping.

Thorn · 04-23-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by dda

... I think the Bronze is limited to 2MB in hardware (as opposed to the PDA) but I'm not sure. ...

The Bronze card's hardware does limit it to 2MB. They conformed to the original 802.11 specification. (Long before a, b, or g.)

McHale · 04-24-2004

their original 802.11 card (white) is just that, 802.11, not 802.11b. The Bronze card is 802.11b but limited to less than 11mb. They were made at the same time as the silver and gold.

As soon as I get this thing working, I'll let you guys know if it does 11mb or not. I'm willing to wreck it in the name of discovery.

I have ripped the PDAs from the bronze, silver, and gold but was unable to rip the PDA from the original white card. I didn't upgrade the FW every release in a row and jumped from a real low one to a real high one and it messed it up. I sent it to the guys in engineering and they tried the same thing on an exact same card and they had the same results. For me to fix it, I need to start over with the original FW and upgrade a version at a time. It's not worth it.

-Mc

Corvette_Lee · 04-25-2004

Que me dicen de esto, será que las tarjetas con firmware primario 3.0 y 4.0 es necesario hacer esto?

ah, las tarjetas que tienen firmware primario 4.04 y que no se puede gravar el PDA tienen hardware version 5.0

The Others · 04-25-2004

That they say to me of this, will be that the cards with firmware primary 3,0 and 4,0 it is necessary to do this?

ah, the cards that have firmware primary 4,04 and that cannot be burdened the PDA have hardware version 5.0

Corvette_Lee · 04-25-2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoganDzwon

What on earth does that mean? Is there any hope we can get a bronze or white card to support 128-bit

las tarjetas blancas, bronze y bronze turbo no puede ser colocado criptografia por que esta limitado por hardware, le faltan componentes para que funcione la criptografia. eso he comprobado al desarmar la tarjeta.

las que conseguí cambiar son:
Bronze Pri 3.02 - 14 channels and Domain
Orinoco silver Pri 4.02 - WEP128, channels and Domain
Orinoco silver Pri 4.04 - WEP128, channels and Domain
Orinoco Gold Pri 4.04 - channels and Domain
Avaya silver Pri 4.04 - WEP128, channels and Domain
Avaya Gold Pri 4.04 - channels and Domain
Enterasys silver Pri 4.04 - WEP128, channels and Domain
Enterasys silver ETC Pri 4.04 - WEP128, channels and Domain
Enterasys Gold 4.02 - channels and Domain
Enterasys Gold 4.04 - channels and Domain

las que no consigo cambiar son:
Bronze Pri 3.00
Bronze Turbo Pri 3.00
WaveLan White Pri 4.00
WaveLan Silver Pri 4.00
WaveLan Silver Turbo Pri 4.00
WaveLan Gold Turbo Pri 4.00
WaveAccess Silver Pri 4.00
IBM Silver Pri 4.00
Orinoco silver Hardware 5.0 Pri 4.04
Dell Gold Hardware 5.0 Pri 4.04

04-19-2004	#122 (permalink)
BlahBoy Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 34	My Compaq laptop has a Texas Instruments PCI-1211 PCMCIA adaptor, which is listed in flash.ini. flash.exe reads the pda fine, but flashold.exe cannot upload the edited pda, giving the 322 error. My desktop has a Ricoh-based PCMCIA PCI adaptor. I got flash.exe to read by editing the first definition in flash.ini, by changing 476 to 475. Unfortunately flashold.exe does not recognise it. So, at this point, I am unable to write an edited PDA to my RoamAbout cards. Last edited by BlahBoy : 04-19-2004 at 09:21 AM.

04-22-2004	#128 (permalink)
gamr343 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Good Ole' USA Posts: 27	Hi, if you cant speak english, go to world.altavista.com for a quick and easy, not to mention reliable translation. Translated into spanish using world.altavista.com Hi, si usted linado habla inglés, vaya a world.altavista.com para un rápido y fácil, no mencionar la traducción confiable. He suposedly said: My English is bad, for that reason I am going to write to them in Spanish. All the cards with firmware primary 3,02, 4,02 and 4,04 I was able to burden the PDA given back for the card, with the exception of some new cards that have sealed metal of PCMCIA I was not able to update the PDA (those that does not have rivets to the flank and that has metals as it cracked of egg) my problems are that the majorities of cards wavelan have firmware 3,0 (Bronze) or 4,0 (they wavelan to silver I disturb and some old cards Orinoco to silver) I have found until now 3 primary card bronze with firmware 3,02 that I was able to change to line 104 7ff for 3fff and to burden successfully. so if somebody is able to update firmware primary 4,0 for 4,02 or 4,04, we go to be able to change all cards. I read manual of Prism the flash ultility of end to end and nonencounter like lowering firmware primary thus to be able to load in another card that has firmware 4.0. Greetings Lee __________________ "Lets just say for the sake of arguement that the earth is being occupied by strange, crab like creatures from another planet. One of them needs a light-you whip out your zippo, you flick your wick, somebody says, LOOK! Its Yoko Ono on a moped, and BOOM! You're off to the races!" -Fire Marshall Bill on "In Living Color"

04-25-2004	#134 (permalink)
The Others PeaceDriver Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dos Palabras, Mandoras Posts: 2,920	electronic translation: That they say to me of this, will be that the cards with firmware primary 3,0 and 4,0 it is necessary to do this? ah, the cards that have firmware primary 4,04 and that cannot be burdened the PDA have hardware version 5.0 __________________ all good ends all ?u=273 Last edited by The Others : 04-25-2004 at 03:57 PM.

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04-18-2004	#121 (permalink)
Evil2000 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 40	The Linux way doesn't work for me: When I try to flash my PDA to the card, it says "error, you must specify a pda location"

04-19-2004	#123 (permalink)
McHale approved for all ages... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: BFE Illinois Posts: 262	as soon as we find someone with the programming skills, this won't be an issue much longer. I have all of the Orinoco development kits and it has enough info to write a custom utility to do it or write a custom driver so it's not an issue any longer. It's been almost 10 years since I did any quality programming so I can't do it. I started a thread asking to see who could code in C or C++ but it was moved to "off topic" - that was a big help... thanks for that by the way. Anyway, long story short, we know enough about the PDA to do what we want. The development kits give code examples and all the details to write a utility to read the pda or flash, and write it back. I just need to find someone who understands wireless and programming who is willing to take the time. Until that time, I'm looking for alternate methods to do it. I have about 6 different versions of that flash utility and all are giving different results and by changing options, I get even more results. I'd like to see a windows utility that allows you to view and edit the channels, MAC, serial number, silver to gold, etc. Also, it would be nice to rewrite the windows driver to allow promiscuous mode but that's not important right now... God, how I ramble... ANYWAY, for those of us who can't get this to work using flash, be patient. There's a LOT of people working on it and soon enough, someone is going to figure it all out. But keep trying... -Mc

04-22-2004	#126 (permalink)
McHale approved for all ages... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: BFE Illinois Posts: 262	hmmmm... so if I'm reading this properly, ALL cards that are 3.02, 4.02, and 4.04, if you can read the card, you should be able to write the card. But if you have 3.0 or 4.0, no dice. right? My big question is, who has a primary function of anything but 3.0 or 4.0? I went through about 15 cards here (white, bronze, silver, gold) and they were all 4.0. So if we find a way to upgrade the primary to 4.02 or 4.04, this will work? Can anyone who has successfully upgraded confirm? -Mc

04-23-2004	#129 (permalink)
LoganDzwon Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 3	What on earth does that mean? Is there any hope we can get a bronze or white card to support 128-bit

04-24-2004	#132 (permalink)
McHale approved for all ages... Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: BFE Illinois Posts: 262	their original 802.11 card (white) is just that, 802.11, not 802.11b. The Bronze card is 802.11b but limited to less than 11mb. They were made at the same time as the silver and gold. As soon as I get this thing working, I'll let you guys know if it does 11mb or not. I'm willing to wreck it in the name of discovery. I have ripped the PDAs from the bronze, silver, and gold but was unable to rip the PDA from the original white card. I didn't upgrade the FW every release in a row and jumped from a real low one to a real high one and it messed it up. I sent it to the guys in engineering and they tried the same thing on an exact same card and they had the same results. For me to fix it, I need to start over with the original FW and upgrade a version at a time. It's not worth it. -Mc