Need advice on card

johngillespie · 02-27-2007

Hi all,

I intend buying a PCMCIA card to use for wifi security testing but don't know what i'm best getting. I've read quite a lot of info and it looks as if the PRISM chipset based cards are the ones that allow people to do the most.

Atheros seems good too but void11 doesn't work with it and i don't want to bother using a packet generator to build my own deauth packets.

What differences are there between PRISM based cards ?

Am i correct in going for a PRISM card ?

Regards,
John Gillespie

Thorn · 02-27-2007

This has been said about 10,000 times, and is a standard mantra for people who actually use computers: Define the software that you are going to use, and then buy the appropriate hardware to work with that software.

If you really intend to do wireless security testing, then you will need multiple software packages. That then requires you to have multiple cards. There is no one magic card that will do it all.

johngillespie · 02-27-2007

ok, i was expecting that kind of answer

I'm certain that prism is the chipset i need. Do certain cards perform better than others ? I noticed that there are different chipset versions, should i avoid some of them ? what differences are there between the different versions ?

MikeP928 · 02-27-2007

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

ok, i was expecting that kind of answer

I'm certain that prism is the chipset i need. Do certain cards perform better than others ? I noticed that there are different chipset versions, should i avoid some of them ? what differences are there between the different versions ?

Does anyone notice a similar pattern between someone that joined this morning, and someone that was got a 2 week vacation last night, in their choices of when to use capitalization?

Hey, Dutch, wake up! Earn your extravagant mod pay and check IP addresses. See if you can get it right this time.

/Staggers out onto the white sand beaches of Panama City to welcome the spring breakers, going to 78 degrees today.

MikeP

Thorn · 02-27-2007

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

ok, i was expecting that kind of answer

Then why did you ask?

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

I'm certain that prism is the chipset i need.

Need for it with what software? *

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Do certain cards perform better than others ?

With what software?* Most cards will outperform others, depending on what job is being undertaken, and what software is used. Conversely, most cards will also either be real dogs or not work at all, if used with the wrong software.

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

noticed that there are different chipset versions, should i avoid some of them ?

Yes. Avoid those that are known to have issues with the software you have decided to use.

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what differences are there between the different versions ?

It depends on the card and chipset, and the software. (Are you seeing a trend here, yet?) Generally, newer cards have more features and better RF sensitivity, although this isn't always the case. Some manufacturers remove features that they feel are no longer needed, but might be required for use with with a given software. For example, NetStumbler needs cards containing the Hermes chipset to fully function, as certain features are not available on other chipsets.

*Note: These are rhetorical questions. I really don't need to know. I'm just pointing out -once again- that the "need" for a given chipset is entirely driven by the software selection.

johngillespie · 02-27-2007

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Originally Posted by MikeP928

Does anyone notice a similar pattern between someone that joined this morning, and someone that was got a 2 week vacation last night, in their choices of when to use capitalization?

Hey, Dutch, wake up! Earn your extravagant mod pay and check IP addresses. See if you can get it right this time.

/Staggers out onto the white sand beaches of Panama City to welcome the spring breakers, going to 78 degrees today.

MikeP

what do you mean ?

Thorn · 02-27-2007

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Originally Posted by MikeP928

Does anyone notice a similar pattern between someone that joined this morning, and someone that was got a 2 week vacation last night, in their choices of when to use capitalization?

Hey, Dutch, wake up! Earn your extravagant mod pay and check IP addresses. See if you can get it right this time.

/Staggers out onto the white sand beaches of Panama City to welcome the spring breakers, going to 78 degrees today.

MikeP

MikeP,
The IP is from France. The other was from Belguim.

It's 4º F. here.

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

what do you mean ?

He is referring to your inability to type correct English. Please read the Welcome Desk for further information.

johngillespie · 02-27-2007

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Originally Posted by Thorn

He is referring to your inability to type correct English.

I am English and don't have any problem speaking or writing it.

You obviously don't intend being of any help so please don't bother answering my post anymore.

Regards,
John Gillespie

johngillespie · 02-27-2007

I am currently enclined to go for a PRISM card having seen this.

I'm mainly interested in sniffing traffic and using tools such as void11 or aircrack.

streaker69 · 02-27-2007

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

I am English and don't have any problem speaking or writing it.

You obviously don't intend being of any help so please don't bother answering my post anymore.

Regards,
John Gillespie

This one has some mighty big balls.

In case you hadn't noticed he was trying to help you, but if you choose not to follow the rules of the forum, there is no reason anyone should help you.

Now why don't you run along now, since it's plainly obvious that your intentions are less than honorable.

Thorn · 02-27-2007

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

I am English and don't have any problem speaking or writing it.

Then you might want to proofread. Your capitalization leaves something to be desired.

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Originally Posted by johngillespie

You obviously don't intend being of any help so please don't bother answering my post anymore.

My answers are attempting to help you define what you are doing.. However, since you feel that way, the thread is closed.

02-27-2007	#1 (permalink)
johngillespie Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5	Need advice on card Hi all, I intend buying a PCMCIA card to use for wifi security testing but don't know what i'm best getting. I've read quite a lot of info and it looks as if the PRISM chipset based cards are the ones that allow people to do the most. Atheros seems good too but void11 doesn't work with it and i don't want to bother using a packet generator to build my own deauth packets. What differences are there between PRISM based cards ? Am i correct in going for a PRISM card ? Regards, John Gillespie

02-27-2007	#2 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,360	This has been said about 10,000 times, and is a standard mantra for people who actually use computers: Define the software that you are going to use, and then buy the appropriate hardware to work with that software. If you really intend to do wireless security testing, then you will need multiple software packages. That then requires you to have multiple cards. There is no one magic card that will do it all. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"

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02-27-2007	#3 (permalink)
johngillespie Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5	ok, i was expecting that kind of answer I'm certain that prism is the chipset i need. Do certain cards perform better than others ? I noticed that there are different chipset versions, should i avoid some of them ? what differences are there between the different versions ?

02-27-2007	#9 (permalink)
johngillespie Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5	I am currently enclined to go for a PRISM card having seen this. I'm mainly interested in sniffing traffic and using tools such as void11 or aircrack.