Problems, 2Wire Orinoco Gold 8.42 Firmware

pr0zac · 10-24-2005

I just purchased a 2Wire brand Orinoco Gold and was attempting to flash the firmware back to a 6.x/7.x version from the installed 8.42 so I could use the card with kismet in linux. I've so far been unable to do this.

Hex editing the .exe for the 8.10 firmware, I managed to get it to flash to that version. This version appears to not support monitor mode under linux either.

Doing the exact same thing with the others, going as far as to rip out the acceptable cards block from the 8.10 exe and dropping it into the other firmware exes, has proven unsuccessful. I've tried flashing to the 8.72 firmware (not the Ageres one, couldn't find it), both before and after the "hex edit trick", neither of which worked. Everything gives me "No wireless card driver found. Make sure the right driver is installed, and the wireless card is inserted."

The 6.06 firmware (the one that doesn't check for acceptable cards) gives me the "Your current card is not updateable with this utility. Please check out website for information about the latest available drivers and firmware updates." Interestingly, after I managed to flash the card to 8.10, the 6.06 exe, states the card as still being 8.42. The 8.10 installer sees it as changed, as does dmesg under linux.

I know the card works. I'm connected to the internet with it right now. So I'm really at a loss. Anyone got any suggestions on what I could do?

-zac

streaker69 · 10-24-2005

What's the FCCID of this card?

pr0zac · 10-24-2005

The FCC ID: IMRWLPCE2411R

-zac

pEEf · 11-11-2005

I was able to successfully convert my 2wire to an orinoco gold by flashing in a CIS & PDA derived from an official Orinico Gold. The 2wire now identifies as a "Version 5.0 Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Version 01.01", and will ask to install Orinoco drivers on a fresh machine when inserted, and will take the current (non-hacked) 8.72 firmware.

The only difference between it and the "Donor" card I sucked the CIS/PDA from is this:

2 Wire:
Variant 1, Version 4.04 of Primary Functions firmware
Variant 1, Version 8.72 of Station Functions firmware

Orinoco:
Variant 1, Version 4.00 of Primary Functions firmware
Variant 1, Version 8.72 of Station Functions firmware

Everything else is the same, even serial and MAC. I obviously will change the MAC if I can get the card working again, but the problem is that it WILL NOT see any signals. Nothing. It's as if somehow the channels have been shifted, or the radio itself has not been initialized. I assume this is because of the differences in the "Primary Firmware".

What I need is a backup CIS and PDA from a 2 Wire card. I didn't do it correctly and now I'm stuck!

The good news is that If you apply this to a Truemobile it DOES work fine! I have 2 that now are identifiying as Orinoco Golds.

I will happily trade my "trick" for doing the Truemobiles for a 2wire dump!

streaker69 · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by pEEf

I was able to successfully convert my 2wire to an orinoco gold by flashing in a CIS & PDA derived from an official Orinico Gold. The 2wire now identifies as a "Version 5.0 Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Version 01.01", and will ask to install Orinoco drivers on a fresh machine when inserted, and will take the current (non-hacked) 8.72 firmware.

The only difference between it and the "Donor" card I sucked the CIS/PDA from is this:

2 Wire:
Variant 1, Version 4.04 of Primary Functions firmware
Variant 1, Version 8.72 of Station Functions firmware

Orinoco:
Variant 1, Version 4.00 of Primary Functions firmware
Variant 1, Version 8.72 of Station Functions firmware

Everything else is the same, even serial and MAC. I obviously will change the MAC if I can get the card working again, but the problem is that it WILL NOT see any signals. Nothing. It's as if somehow the channels have been shifted, or the radio itself has not been initialized. I assume this is because of the differences in the "Primary Firmware".

What I need is a backup CIS and PDA from a 2 Wire card. I didn't do it correctly and now I'm stuck!

The good news is that If you apply this to a Truemobile it DOES work fine! I have 2 that now are identifiying as Orinoco Golds.

I will happily trade my "trick" for doing the Truemobiles for a 2wire dump!

If it doesn't pick up signals, then I guess you weren't that successful in the conversion, don't ya think?

pEEf · 11-11-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by streaker69

If it doesn't pick up signals, then I guess you weren't that successful in the conversion, don't ya think?

You obviously didn't really read what I posted. The Dell Truemobile cards all worked fine. This 2wire card is the problem.... I had assumed it would take the Orinoco code the same way, but apparently not.

It's just one card, but I hate having something like this "Get me" after so much success.

Ogrefish · 09-04-2006

Has anyone solved this yet? I have exactly the same problem, and a resolution would be great..How can it be so hard to change this cards firmware in windows xp back to 606!!

Help..plz.......

dakkon2k · 09-04-2006

Holy zombie revival!
I'm guesing you didn't look at the thread dates?!
I think the following are good:
IBTB

Ogrefish · 09-04-2006

lol..yeh i did..it was just a shot in the dark, since i know this is really nothing directly to do with netstumbler,(apologies) im trying to get the 606 firmware on the card so i can use it in backtrack.....unless anyone has the 606 firmware drivers and client manager they could give me...This is a last resort since ive tried everything, googled for ages and am about to give up, sell everything and move to Mongolia to live a simple life......any answers would be welcome. :G:... Sorry to be a bother.

streaker69 · 09-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogrefish

lol..yeh i did..it was just a shot in the dark, since i know this is really nothing directly to do with netstumbler,(apologies) im trying to get the 606 firmware on the card so i can use it in backtrack.....unless anyone has the 606 firmware drivers and client manager they could give me...This is a last resort since ive tried everything, googled for ages and am about to give up, sell everything and move to Mongolia to live a simple life......any answers would be welcome. :G:... Sorry to be a bother.

How...about...you...read...the...Welcome...Desk?

Ogrefish · 09-04-2006

Actually i have, since its always polite to read the rules before posting and i have done a specific search of this forum, all of which hasn't led to a result concerning this specific card issue, unless i've utterly used search strings completely unrelated like ...how to bake an apple pie....

how about just helping a fella out here if you know the answer to make it quicker.., if ya don't know the answer..say so..Its what i do when i have to help people out at work.

streaker69 · 09-04-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ogrefish

Actually i have, since its always polite to read the rules before posting and i have done a specific search of this forum, all of which hasn't led to a result concerning this specific card issue, unless i've utterly used search strings completely unrelated like ...how to bake an apple pie....

how about just helping a fella out here if you know the answer to make it quicker.., if ya don't..say so..Its what i do when i have to help people out at work.

Not only is it polite to read the rules, but it's even better to abide by them.

http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=12814

itsnotme · 09-04-2006

Helps to follow the rules here, otherwise you're going to get a very large cylindrical object up one of the holes. The rules state to just start a new thread with your problem instead of reviving an long dead thread. I guess you missed that one. It also says to please use grammatically correct and capitalizationally correct posts.

If there wasn't already a solution in a thread this old, what made you think there would be one now?

Edit: Damn, Streaker outposted me.

10-24-2005	#1 (permalink)
pr0zac Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2	Problems, 2Wire Orinoco Gold 8.42 Firmware I just purchased a 2Wire brand Orinoco Gold and was attempting to flash the firmware back to a 6.x/7.x version from the installed 8.42 so I could use the card with kismet in linux. I've so far been unable to do this. Hex editing the .exe for the 8.10 firmware, I managed to get it to flash to that version. This version appears to not support monitor mode under linux either. Doing the exact same thing with the others, going as far as to rip out the acceptable cards block from the 8.10 exe and dropping it into the other firmware exes, has proven unsuccessful. I've tried flashing to the 8.72 firmware (not the Ageres one, couldn't find it), both before and after the "hex edit trick", neither of which worked. Everything gives me "No wireless card driver found. Make sure the right driver is installed, and the wireless card is inserted." The 6.06 firmware (the one that doesn't check for acceptable cards) gives me the "Your current card is not updateable with this utility. Please check out website for information about the latest available drivers and firmware updates." Interestingly, after I managed to flash the card to 8.10, the 6.06 exe, states the card as still being 8.42. The 8.10 installer sees it as changed, as does dmesg under linux. I know the card works. I'm connected to the internet with it right now. So I'm really at a loss. Anyone got any suggestions on what I could do? -zac

10-24-2005	#2 (permalink)
streaker69 Psychic Amish Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA Posts: 12,240	What's the FCCID of this card? __________________ Treat your gun like your genitals, only whip it out when it's absolutely necessary.

11-11-2005	#4 (permalink)
pEEf Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2	2wire problems I was able to successfully convert my 2wire to an orinoco gold by flashing in a CIS & PDA derived from an official Orinico Gold. The 2wire now identifies as a "Version 5.0 Lucent Technologies WaveLAN/IEEE Version 01.01", and will ask to install Orinoco drivers on a fresh machine when inserted, and will take the current (non-hacked) 8.72 firmware. The only difference between it and the "Donor" card I sucked the CIS/PDA from is this: 2 Wire: Variant 1, Version 4.04 of Primary Functions firmware Variant 1, Version 8.72 of Station Functions firmware Orinoco: Variant 1, Version 4.00 of Primary Functions firmware Variant 1, Version 8.72 of Station Functions firmware Everything else is the same, even serial and MAC. I obviously will change the MAC if I can get the card working again, but the problem is that it WILL NOT see any signals. Nothing. It's as if somehow the channels have been shifted, or the radio itself has not been initialized. I assume this is because of the differences in the "Primary Firmware". What I need is a backup CIS and PDA from a 2 Wire card. I didn't do it correctly and now I'm stuck! The good news is that If you apply this to a Truemobile it DOES work fine! I have 2 that now are identifiying as Orinoco Golds. I will happily trade my "trick" for doing the Truemobiles for a 2wire dump!

09-04-2006	#7 (permalink)
Ogrefish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	delayed post..help again. Has anyone solved this yet? I have exactly the same problem, and a resolution would be great..How can it be so hard to change this cards firmware in windows xp back to 606!! Help..plz.......

09-04-2006	#8 (permalink)
dakkon2k proselyte Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Quite a bit EAST & a smidgen south of the world famous Rat. 2 miles from the beach or 1/2 a mile from a golf course and liquor store, or 2 miles from a Gun store or 5 miles from a hooters or a "adult nightclub" Posts: 894	Holy zombie revival! I'm guesing you didn't look at the thread dates?! I think the following are good: IBTB __________________ Unable to apply patch, Please install M$ Outlook to continue. A journey of a thousand posts begins with How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

10-24-2005	#3 (permalink)
pr0zac Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2	The FCC ID: IMRWLPCE2411R -zac

09-04-2006	#9 (permalink)
Ogrefish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	lol..yeh i did..it was just a shot in the dark, since i know this is really nothing directly to do with netstumbler,(apologies) im trying to get the 606 firmware on the card so i can use it in backtrack.....unless anyone has the 606 firmware drivers and client manager they could give me...This is a last resort since ive tried everything, googled for ages and am about to give up, sell everything and move to Mongolia to live a simple life......any answers would be welcome. :G:... Sorry to be a bother.

09-04-2006	#11 (permalink)
Ogrefish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3	Actually i have, since its always polite to read the rules before posting and i have done a specific search of this forum, all of which hasn't led to a result concerning this specific card issue, unless i've utterly used search strings completely unrelated like ...how to bake an apple pie.... how about just helping a fella out here if you know the answer to make it quicker.., if ya don't know the answer..say so..Its what i do when i have to help people out at work. Last edited by Ogrefish : 09-04-2006 at 07:18 PM.

09-04-2006	#13 (permalink)
itsnotme Dumbass checker Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Somewhere below Lake Ontario Posts: 1,076	Helps to follow the rules here, otherwise you're going to get a very large cylindrical object up one of the holes. The rules state to just start a new thread with your problem instead of reviving an long dead thread. I guess you missed that one. It also says to please use grammatically correct and capitalizationally correct posts. If there wasn't already a solution in a thread this old, what made you think there would be one now? Edit: Damn, Streaker outposted me.

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