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Old 12-22-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Question on Gain, Cable Loss in Antennas

hi, i'm totally new to antennas and such and have been reading articles on a few things but am still confused on a few points:

A 5dBi omni antenna casts a taller donut pattern and an 8dBi omni antenna casts a flatter but longer range pattern - i understand that.

If you get some cable loss while using an 8dBi antenna does it also change pattern to a 5 dBi pattern?

How does the dBi Gain relate to the whatever happens during cable loss? is Gain (dBi) the same thing as the dB/signal strength, or am i confusing these two things?

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Old 12-22-2004   #2 (permalink)
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hi, i'm totally new to antennas and such and have been reading articles on a few things but am still confused on a few points:

A 5dBi omni antenna casts a taller donut pattern and an 8dBi omni antenna casts a flatter but longer range pattern - i understand that.

If you get some cable loss while using an 8dBi antenna does it also change pattern to a 5 dBi pattern?
No. The pattern stays the same no matter what the loss is in the cable.

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How does the dBi Gain relate to the whatever happens during cable loss?
They are releated only in the sense that one is adding gain while the other is subtracting. Otherwise they aren't related. See above

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is Gain (dBi) the same thing as the dB/signal strength, or am i confusing these two things?

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You're confusing two separate things.

It works like this:

Radio_Frequency_Power - Cable_Loss + Antenna_Gain = Effective_Radiated_Power

Example: 15dBm (RF) - 4dBm (Cable Loss) + 5dBi (Antenna Gain) = 16dB (ERP)

Remember though, you have to put some RF into it. These are actually logrithmic multipliers. So 0dBm into a 5dBi antenna will give you 0 output, not 5.
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Old 12-24-2004   #3 (permalink)
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Actually 0dbm into 5db gain antenna with no loss would output around 3mw.
0dbm = 1mw
Sorry Thorn, I just had to throw in some confusion. Hehe
I know you were just making a point for him but with my holiday spirit I decided to get technical.
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Actually 0dbm into 5db gain antenna with no loss would output around 3mw.
0dbm = 1mw
Sorry Thorn, I just had to throw in some confusion. Hehe
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