Tripmate GPS and NetStumbler

08-11-2001

How does one configure the Delorme Tripmate to work with NetStumbler. It is one of the grayed out names under the protocal menu. As I understand it the Tripmate is NEMA compatable once you send ASTRAL on the com port to take the device out of sleep mode. None the less I always get a timeout in NetStumbler.

Hawkeye

08-16-2001

I live about 10 mles from DeLorme. A former employee of DeLorme gave me an old TripMate. It appears to be working but I have the exact same problem with NetStumber that you do. Did you figure it out? If so send me an email at "jason at chase dot org".

Thanks.

Jason

08-16-2001

I think it will just need to be added in the next version. If the program does not send ASTRAL it is not going to work. I can hack your Tripmate so when it sends out ASTRAL it feeds it back and goes into NEMA mode, but I rather have a software solution.

08-16-2001

No Delorme GPS unti works in Netstumbler yet as best as I have been able to tell.

However, the Garmin E-Trek (or was it E-Trekx I forget now) worked great for me in Netstumbler 0.3.22 and it can be found online for as litte as $110. Personally I would never recommend using any Delorme GPS unit as their GPS units do not store satellite last seen ephermis data on shutdown. This makes the Delorme units take longer to initialize and get situated, and when the GPS is trying to figure out where it is located is one of the highest power using modes of the unit, so your battery life is not very good.

-Doc

08-26-2001

I just got my old tripmate working with NetStumbler (old and new version)

You need to modify the Delorme Tripmate to output standard NMEA compatible code. You can do this simply with 2 small wires, and a soldering iron.

Follow the instructions here:
http://wes.johnston.net/aprs/tripmate.htm

I found them last nite, upgraded my tripmate in 10 minutes, and also added a switch so I can turn the unit off and on without pulling it apart. You can still use the tripmate in Street Atlas USA by selecting Standard/generic NMEA from the list of GPS units. Saved me $150 by moifying my old tripmate, vs. buying a new GPS unit just to get the NMEA.

Happy Stumblin!

08-31-2001

I would love it if the next version of NetStumbler was compatible with the Delorme Earthmate. I dont want to cut into the GPS.... Let me know if I can help!!!

NDuhClouds

09-16-2001

just found this information.

http://byonics.com/gst-1/gst-1.html

greets

nrgetic

11-13-2001

DOes the greyed out GPS type menu mean these choices are planned but not supported?

11-19-2001

There is no support inherent in the Eartmate to output NMEA strings. There is a $45 hardware device that will convert the 'Rockwell Binary Protocol' data to NMEA.

There has been some work on software libraries to allow using the Earthmate and other Rockwell Binary GPS hardware with MS-Windows instead of the hardware solution, but this would require linking the shim libraries into Netstumbler.

The best solution is to use a 'real' NMEA capable GPS. I'm shopping for one right now, haven't had much luck finding a good price (< $280) on the 'hockey puck' style RS-232 12-channel units.

11-29-2001

I too would like to get functionality with my Earthmate, I did locate a link where you can download a custom software patch to convert the Earthmate's output to NMEA, although it does its work in a software buffer for use by GPSS software specifically, as I recall. If it helps, email me an I will dig up the link.
At any rate, if the Netstumbler software gods could find it in their interest to interface the GPS' input from that software's output buffer file, maybe there is a match here.

Thoughts?

12-06-2001

What was that link?

12-10-2001

The link for that software:

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~tooraj/eartha2nmea.htm

Cheers!

The PaleHorse

12-30-2001

I have one of those Tripmates, I will have to try it out

funny got it years ago when they first came out in the US and used it in the UK with this guys software

www.gpss.co.uk

08-11-2001	#1 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Tripmate GPS and NetStumbler How does one configure the Delorme Tripmate to work with NetStumbler. It is one of the grayed out names under the protocal menu. As I understand it the Tripmate is NEMA compatable once you send ASTRAL on the com port to take the device out of sleep mode. None the less I always get a timeout in NetStumbler. Hawkeye

08-16-2001	#2 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Did you figure it out? I live about 10 mles from DeLorme. A former employee of DeLorme gave me an old TripMate. It appears to be working but I have the exact same problem with NetStumber that you do. Did you figure it out? If so send me an email at "jason at chase dot org". Thanks. Jason

08-16-2001	#4 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Delorme GPS units and Netstumbler No Delorme GPS unti works in Netstumbler yet as best as I have been able to tell. However, the Garmin E-Trek (or was it E-Trekx I forget now) worked great for me in Netstumbler 0.3.22 and it can be found online for as litte as $110. Personally I would never recommend using any Delorme GPS unit as their GPS units do not store satellite last seen ephermis data on shutdown. This makes the Delorme units take longer to initialize and get situated, and when the GPS is trying to figure out where it is located is one of the highest power using modes of the unit, so your battery life is not very good. -Doc

08-26-2001	#5 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Delorme Tripmate WORKS with NetStumbler I just got my old tripmate working with NetStumbler (old and new version) You need to modify the Delorme Tripmate to output standard NMEA compatible code. You can do this simply with 2 small wires, and a soldering iron. Follow the instructions here: http://wes.johnston.net/aprs/tripmate.htm I found them last nite, upgraded my tripmate in 10 minutes, and also added a switch so I can turn the unit off and on without pulling it apart. You can still use the tripmate in Street Atlas USA by selecting Standard/generic NMEA from the list of GPS units. Saved me $150 by moifying my old tripmate, vs. buying a new GPS unit just to get the NMEA. Happy Stumblin!

08-31-2001	#6 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Please make Net Stumbler compatible with Delorme Products I would love it if the next version of NetStumbler was compatible with the Delorme Earthmate. I dont want to cut into the GPS.... Let me know if I can help!!! NDuhClouds

08-16-2001	#3 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I think it will just need to be added in the next version. If the program does not send ASTRAL it is not going to work. I can hack your Tripmate so when it sends out ASTRAL it feeds it back and goes into NEMA mode, but I rather have a software solution.

09-16-2001	#7 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Earthmate solution just found this information. http://byonics.com/gst-1/gst-1.html greets nrgetic

11-13-2001	#8 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	So the GreyOut Means it doesnt work? DOes the greyed out GPS type menu mean these choices are planned but not supported?

11-19-2001	#9 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Earthmate functionality There is no support inherent in the Eartmate to output NMEA strings. There is a $45 hardware device that will convert the 'Rockwell Binary Protocol' data to NMEA. There has been some work on software libraries to allow using the Earthmate and other Rockwell Binary GPS hardware with MS-Windows instead of the hardware solution, but this would require linking the shim libraries into Netstumbler. The best solution is to use a 'real' NMEA capable GPS. I'm shopping for one right now, haven't had much luck finding a good price (< $280) on the 'hockey puck' style RS-232 12-channel units.

11-29-2001	#10 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	Earthmate Functionality I too would like to get functionality with my Earthmate, I did locate a link where you can download a custom software patch to convert the Earthmate's output to NMEA, although it does its work in a software buffer for use by GPSS software specifically, as I recall. If it helps, email me an I will dig up the link. At any rate, if the Netstumbler software gods could find it in their interest to interface the GPS' input from that software's output buffer file, maybe there is a match here. Thoughts?

12-10-2001	#12 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	The link you wanted from Willy... The link for that software: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~tooraj/eartha2nmea.htm Cheers! The PaleHorse

12-30-2001	#13 (permalink)
Posts: n/a	I have one of those Tripmates, I will have to try it out funny got it years ago when they first came out in the US and used it in the UK with this guys software www.gpss.co.uk

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