True or Not?

1EZway · 06-14-2003

http://www.wifi-plus.com/pages/2/index.htm

What do you think about the design? Thorn any thoughts?

agentgrn · 06-14-2003

I have to cry "bullshit" on it being "obstruction penetrating". It may be a nice high-gain unit in a small space, but you can't magically make signal appear where it's already been absorbed.

The old adage states that if it's too good to be true, then it probably is.

infosec_buda · 06-14-2003

I'd have to agree. You can't change the laws of physics...

Madhadder · 06-15-2003

Cough..Bullshit....

TheSovereign · 06-15-2003

maybe they tested it thru a peice of paper and said it can go thru stuff....you know, mid-evil physics

sparafina · 06-15-2003

they claim its patented, but a PTO search came up empty.

besides, what the hell is "geo-spatial" capture?

peekitty · 06-15-2003

The entire site looks cheezy, bad grammar and spelling don't exactly inspire confidence. It's hard to draw any conclusions without testing the products, but the quality doesn't look too hot. The ‘ULTRA-M Omni’ (their quotes, not mine) appears to be housed in a PVC end cap, and the "ULTRA "M" BEAM" (their all-caps, not mine) has visible pop-rivets.

I'll give them a "C" for effort.

peekitty · 06-15-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by sparafina
besides, what the hell is "geo-spatial" capture?

Beats me. Google doesn't know either.

The Others · 06-16-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by peekitty
The entire site looks cheezy, bad grammar and spelling don't exactly inspire confidence. It's hard to draw any conclusions without testing the products, but the quality doesn't look too hot. The ‘ULTRA-M Omni’ (their quotes, not mine) appears to be housed in a PVC end cap, and the "ULTRA "M" BEAM" (their all-caps, not mine) has visible pop-rivets.

I'll give them a "C" for effort.

Playing devils advocate:

Some of the worlds best great stuff is simply built and follows a principle of form over function. The overal build quality may not look too good from the site but it is, afterall, perfomance that matters.

The "cheezy" website is not too surprising, these people work with WIFI, not HTML. Take a look at FAB corp, it's not really a pretty site either.

Their ideas of "multi-polarized" antennas may be a sound one, after all, many obstacles change the polarization of an antenna (over head power cables etc). Such an antenna would also be good for wardriving, being ace for detecting both APs and p-2-p networks.

However, the "bulge" antenna's found in most WI-FI cards are, in practice, "multi-polarized", as are those short antennas on access points. The main reason being is they're pretty crap. Also, many of the points said above are probably valid, although they are a little one-sided and I would like to hear a respnse from the manufacturer (a free, test sample would also be ace

).

peekitty · 06-16-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by The Others
(a free, test sample would also be ace ).

You stand a far better chance of getting one than I do

I agree with your premise, performance is the key: a parabolic grid won't win a beauty contest, but it works great.

The Others · 06-17-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by peekitty
a parabolic grid won't win a beauty contest,

I have to disagree, nothing looks cooler than a parabolic pointed at your neighbours house.

And when he asks what it is, simply reply "damn, has my sat dish fallen down again?..."

nashr · 06-17-2003

Wonder if I can pull together a pilot program to test this... after all, we've tested wifi/leap, wifi/vpn, etc etc... News may follow

nashr · 06-17-2003

Drop the hyphen and you get these results:

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?s...patial+capture

and

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...patial+capture

The Others · 06-17-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by nashr
Wonder if I can pull together a pilot program to test this... after all, we've tested wifi/leap, wifi/vpn, etc etc... News may follow

I was thinking of emailing them. However, you'll proabably have better luck with it than me. Oh well, keep us up to date, it's all very interesting.

1EZway · 06-17-2003

I was hoping lincomatic would say something.

06-14-2003	#1 (permalink)
1EZway Stumble & Bumbler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mid Atlantic in Hurricane Alley Posts: 47	True or Not? http://www.wifi-plus.com/pages/2/index.htm What do you think about the design? Thorn any thoughts?

06-14-2003	#2 (permalink)
agentgrn KB1JQO - Packin' Heat Join Date: May 2002 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 517	I have to cry "bullshit" on it being "obstruction penetrating". It may be a nice high-gain unit in a small space, but you can't magically make signal appear where it's already been absorbed. The old adage states that if it's too good to be true, then it probably is. __________________ -A.G.-

06-14-2003	#3 (permalink)
infosec_buda zen stumbler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 53	I'd have to agree. You can't change the laws of physics... Last edited by infosec_buda : 07-03-2003 at 06:29 AM.

06-15-2003	#5 (permalink)
TheSovereign Master of the universe Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 658	maybe they tested it thru a peice of paper and said it can go thru stuff....you know, mid-evil physics __________________ SO SAYS TheSovereign

06-17-2003	#12 (permalink)
nashr Uber Geek Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,624	Hmmmmm... Wonder if I can pull together a pilot program to test this... after all, we've tested wifi/leap, wifi/vpn, etc etc... News may follow __________________ Help! I've been Simpsonized!

06-15-2003	#4 (permalink)
Madhadder General "Noob Basher" Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Munich, Germany Posts: 1,620	Cough..Bullshit....

06-15-2003	#6 (permalink)
sparafina Registered Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: TX,MD,NY Posts: 1,430	they claim its patented, but a PTO search came up empty. besides, what the hell is "geo-spatial" capture?

06-15-2003	#7 (permalink)
peekitty Macaca Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 1,056	The entire site looks cheezy, bad grammar and spelling don't exactly inspire confidence. It's hard to draw any conclusions without testing the products, but the quality doesn't look too hot. The ‘ULTRA-M Omni’ (their quotes, not mine) appears to be housed in a PVC end cap, and the "ULTRA "M" BEAM" (their all-caps, not mine) has visible pop-rivets. I'll give them a "C" for effort.

06-17-2003	#13 (permalink)
nashr Uber Geek Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,624	geospatial capture Drop the hyphen and you get these results: http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?s...patial+capture and http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...patial+capture __________________ Help! I've been Simpsonized!

06-17-2003	#15 (permalink)
1EZway Stumble & Bumbler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Mid Atlantic in Hurricane Alley Posts: 47	I was hoping lincomatic would say something.

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