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Old 05-16-2004   #1 (permalink)
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WAP on an Island

Hi there....I'm new.
But don't worry, i've done my searches and I think I have a general Idea of what I'm talking about.

So here's my dilema:
This summer I am setting up internet access at this island (its about 2 1/2 acres). Its gonna come in through this provider called SureNet. They provide wireless internet access, with antenna's on cellular towers. They will come and install it at the island. This involves putting a small square antenna on a post, and then providing us with the necessary hardware to convert the signal to ethernet.

My idea is to buy a Linksys wireless router and attach an omni antenna to it, so that the signal will reach the laptops anywhere on the island.

I made a little diagram....The star represents where the SureNet signal would come in, as well as where the external antenna would be located.

My question is, how much gain on the antenna would I need?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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4.5dBi on a 15'-20' mast will do fine.
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It would also depend on if there was anything in the way of your wireless setup. Trees (especially pine trees) would greatly affect the performance of your wireless. You could probably just strap the whole AP to a pole and use some rubber duck antennas. They are like 20 bucks for the pair. Just make sure you place it in a waterproof enclosure. You could do power over ethernet to run the AP too.
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15'-20'? Thats a big mast. Tall. Ugly. Is it possible to have it lets say 10' off the ground with maybe a higher gain antenna?

Also, what is the longest antenna cable you can have without losing significant signal?

Yeah....there are def some trees too....

Also....what are rubber duck antennas? I've never heard that term...


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10 feet would probably be high enough if there is nothing in the way. He was probably trying to keep the full Frensel zone. Heck, you already are getting a cell tower.
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10 feet would probably be high enough if there is nothing in the way. He was probably trying to keep the full Frensel zone. Heck, you already are getting a cell tower.
Is it possible to mount it on a tree? Does it matter if it sways a little?

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Go to www.fab-corp.com, click on cisco/linksys, look about half way down for the rubber ducks. They look like the stock ones.
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Unfortunately, when it gets wet or grows leaves, it will kill your signal.
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Hmmm....Those antennas are $230. Is there anything cheaper....maybe in the $50 range....haha....I know....I'm a little picky...

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5.5 dBi Rubber Duck R-SMA Male Antenna

This is a upgraded 5.5 dBi rubber duck antenna. It can be used to replace the stock 2.2 dBi antennas often shipped with off the shelf access points. This antenna has a 90 degree joint near the base for maximum flexability.

The R-SMA antennas are for use with Netgear Routers, Access points, Bridges and PCI cards. They can also be used to replace the antennas on D-Link Routers, Access points, Bridges, and PCI cards. This antenna can also be used on LinkSys PCI Cards and the WET series Bridges.

Regular Price: $ 17.95
Your Price: $ 15.50
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Wow...sorry....I'm an idiot.

Yeah...so would I just leave those little ones on the router? Or mount em on something?
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Nope, strap the whole AP to the pole. take the original ones off and replace them with those.
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Sorry I missed something in your earlier post.
I gotcha now.

If I had lets say one 10db omni....would that maybe help me get through the trees a little better?

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Heck, you already are getting a cell tower.
Just to clear things up...not sure what you meant...

Theres no cell tower on the actual island....Just the original signal comes from line of sight of a cell tower....a couple miles away probably.....then that goes into some sort of router/modem device that then gives us one ethernet feed...

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