what card did I get?

sys6x · 04-17-2006

hi,

I recently bought an orinoco silver and I did read somewhere (seattlewireless, in hardware comparison) that there is 2 kinds (for a lack of a better word) of Orinoco Silver :

Orinoco Silver (Agere)
PCMCIA
15 dBm (31.6 mW)
$59(Justdeals), $58(invictusnetworks) $65(LanStreet) $40 (PriceGrabber)
MC $35(HyperLinkTech), Card (RFI 6010A, RMC-6010-B, Radiall R299.792.107)
same as LucentWirelessCard, 40 bit encryption, upgradeable to 128 bit: follow Link "Upgrade Silver To Gold - Windows" on http://wireless.pollaknet.at/index.p...e/silvertogold
Hermes
Windows, MacOS, WinCE, FreeBSD, Linux: Orinoco (GPL), wvlan_cs (deprecated), wavelan2_cs(propietary)

Lucent WaveACCESS PC24E-H-ET-L
PCMCIA
6mW
?
as LucentWirelessCard
Low power output for ETS 300 328 point-to-point (with up to 12dB antennas), red plastic instead of black, otherwise believed to be identical to Orinoco Silver
Hermes
as LucentWirelessCard

there are pics of my WLAN card :

http://sys6x.sytes.net/files/wnic-front.jpg
http://sys6x.sytes.net/files/wnic-back.jpg

when I first installed my card, I got it with an agere (just like the 1st of the 2 cards) driver and it worked fine

however, since I have red plastic instead of black, same the model number and the internal antennas aren't that good, just like the 2nd one, I think I got this one but it's confusing me, I don't know...

and I don't know if whatever of these cards I got, I can do the silver to gold hack (like http://www.inertramblings.com/2004/0...n-orinoco-gold)

I will also want to buy an omni antenna and build a pringlantenna and I'd need the right hardware specs (connector, etc...). I did not check for the two of them because I can't do the difference yet...

if anyone can tell me what I got, I would really appreciate!

thanks

wrzwaldo · 04-17-2006

Do you have the manual? Is it FCC approved?

beakmyn · 04-18-2006

Looks to me like a Europe or Japan only model odd though that it wouldn't have FCC approval and a FCC ID since channel selection was done in firmware.

sys6x · 04-18-2006

uh I just had the card, no manual, no driver cd...:/

brwrdrvr · 04-18-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by sys6x

uh I just had the card, no manual, no driver cd...:/

You had to got it from somewhere or someone.

Dutch · 04-18-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by sys6x

uh I just had the card, no manual, no driver cd...:/

The manual and the driver cd is probably where you left the shift key on your keyboard.

Head up to the Welcome Desk section NOW, then read all the posts there. Pay particular note to the thread which deals with this forum's policy on using capitalization and punctuation in posts made on the forum. You won't receive additional warnings.

Dutch

sys6x · 04-18-2006

OK, understood, sorry for those I offended.

I bought the card from a friend and he did not have anything else than the card when he bought it. That means no manual, no driver CD and I was sure when I bought it that there was one and only one Orinoco Silver.

Maybe there is a way I could find our the internal antennas power outputs somewhere in a software way? If so, I don't know how.

Thanks again for your time.

Thorn · 04-18-2006

The card is exactly what you think it is: A low-power version of an ORiNOCO Silver, designed for use in Point-to-Point equipment.

sys6x · 04-22-2006

Thanks, so I suppose I still use the normal Orinoco drivers and manuals?

I just checked the "What is your chipset" sticky and found out there was no chipset written on my line...

Lucent/Agere 802.11b Orinoco Silver PCMCIA Orinoco

So, is it a Hermes one? Orinoco?

I also did read the Antennas FAQ and it is mentionned that You get what you pay for. I hope this isn't cheap?

http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?...cat=250&page=1

My english isn't my first language and I'm not sure of what I read...there is a cable included with this antenna, will I have to dump it and get one for an orinoco card?

About this cable, I search the forums and I get this post : Lucent external antenna Jack type?

Although it may contain the answer, the shop doesn't have this anymore (not surprising by the age of the post). I searched "orinoco cable" and "orinoco pigtail" on fab-corp, without success. For the quality, would you recommend to buy this on ebay? Like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll..._BIN_Stores_IT

I'm not sure it's the right one but it says it is fine.

Thanks again

Thorn · 04-23-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by sys6x

Thanks, so I suppose I still use the normal Orinoco drivers and manuals?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sys6x

I just checked the "What is your chipset" sticky and found out there was no chipset written on my line...

Lucent/Agere 802.11b Orinoco Silver PCMCIA Orinoco

So, is it a Hermes one? Orinoco?

Those cards, whether produced by Agere, Lucent, or Proxim, all used the same Hermes chipset.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sys6x

I also did read the Antennas FAQ and it is mentionned that You get what you pay for. I hope this isn't cheap?

http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?...cat=250&page=1

That is a good antenna, and the price is a fair one for the product.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sys6x

My english isn't my first language and I'm not sure of what I read...there is a cable included with this antenna, will I have to dump it and get one for an orinoco card?

About this cable, I search the forums and I get this post : Lucent external antenna Jack type?

Although it may contain the answer, the shop doesn't have this anymore (not surprising by the age of the post). I searched "orinoco cable" and "orinoco pigtail" on fab-corp, without success. For the quality, would you recommend to buy this on ebay? Like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll..._BIN_Stores_IT

I'm not sure it's the right one but it says it is fine.

Thanks again

A cable is included with that antenna. It is terminated in a "Type N-Male" connector. To use it with your card, you will need a "pigtail" (a short inter-connect cable) that has a "Type N-Female" connector on one end (to mate with the N-Male) and a "Type MC" connector on the other end (to mate with the card's connector.)

04-17-2006	#1 (permalink)
sys6x Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8	what card did I get? hi, I recently bought an orinoco silver and I did read somewhere (seattlewireless, in hardware comparison) that there is 2 kinds (for a lack of a better word) of Orinoco Silver : Orinoco Silver (Agere) PCMCIA 15 dBm (31.6 mW) $59(Justdeals), $58(invictusnetworks) $65(LanStreet) $40 (PriceGrabber) MC $35(HyperLinkTech), Card (RFI 6010A, RMC-6010-B, Radiall R299.792.107) same as LucentWirelessCard, 40 bit encryption, upgradeable to 128 bit: follow Link "Upgrade Silver To Gold - Windows" on http://wireless.pollaknet.at/index.p...e/silvertogold Hermes Windows, MacOS, WinCE, FreeBSD, Linux: Orinoco (GPL), wvlan_cs (deprecated), wavelan2_cs(propietary) Lucent WaveACCESS PC24E-H-ET-L PCMCIA 6mW ? as LucentWirelessCard Low power output for ETS 300 328 point-to-point (with up to 12dB antennas), red plastic instead of black, otherwise believed to be identical to Orinoco Silver Hermes as LucentWirelessCard there are pics of my WLAN card : http://sys6x.sytes.net/files/wnic-front.jpg http://sys6x.sytes.net/files/wnic-back.jpg when I first installed my card, I got it with an agere (just like the 1st of the 2 cards) driver and it worked fine however, since I have red plastic instead of black, same the model number and the internal antennas aren't that good, just like the 2nd one, I think I got this one but it's confusing me, I don't know... and I don't know if whatever of these cards I got, I can do the silver to gold hack (like http://www.inertramblings.com/2004/0...n-orinoco-gold) I will also want to buy an omni antenna and build a pringlantenna and I'd need the right hardware specs (connector, etc...). I did not check for the two of them because I can't do the difference yet... if anyone can tell me what I got, I would really appreciate! thanks

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04-17-2006	#2 (permalink)
wrzwaldo I amuse you? Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,147	Do you have the manual? Is it FCC approved?

04-18-2006	#4 (permalink)
sys6x Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8	uh I just had the card, no manual, no driver cd...:/

04-18-2006	#7 (permalink)
sys6x Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8	OK, understood, sorry for those I offended. I bought the card from a friend and he did not have anything else than the card when he bought it. That means no manual, no driver CD and I was sure when I bought it that there was one and only one Orinoco Silver. Maybe there is a way I could find our the internal antennas power outputs somewhere in a software way? If so, I don't know how. Thanks again for your time.

04-22-2006	#9 (permalink)
sys6x Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8	Thanks, so I suppose I still use the normal Orinoco drivers and manuals? I just checked the "What is your chipset" sticky and found out there was no chipset written on my line... Lucent/Agere 802.11b Orinoco Silver PCMCIA Orinoco So, is it a Hermes one? Orinoco? I also did read the Antennas FAQ and it is mentionned that You get what you pay for. I hope this isn't cheap? http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?...cat=250&page=1 My english isn't my first language and I'm not sure of what I read...there is a cable included with this antenna, will I have to dump it and get one for an orinoco card? About this cable, I search the forums and I get this post : Lucent external antenna Jack type? Although it may contain the answer, the shop doesn't have this anymore (not surprising by the age of the post). I searched "orinoco cable" and "orinoco pigtail" on fab-corp, without success. For the quality, would you recommend to buy this on ebay? Like http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll..._BIN_Stores_IT I'm not sure it's the right one but it says it is fine. Thanks again