What's the advantages of "Hacked" WAP11 v2.2 compared to DWL-900AP+ ?

VreebieZ · 03-12-2003

I don't get the point "converting" Linksys WAP11 v2.2 to D-Link DWL-900AP+.
Can anybody tell the advantages in doing so?

Because I don't see the price differs that much; In fact, it is almost in the same price range. If DLink has better software inside their AP, why don't get DLink AP instead of troubling yourself converting Linksys AP to DLink AP?

Can anyone clarify any hardware-advantages that WAP11 has, compared to DLink DWL-900AP+ ?
Its sensitivity or antenna power perhaps?

peekitty · 03-12-2003

That's funny, the only way my DWL-900AP could be salvaged after I screwed it up was by flashing it with the WAP11 firmware. The Linksys USB management utility also has a few features that D-link's lacks.

michaelp · 03-12-2003

i did it because of the reapeter mode, the linksys you would have to use two of them to setup a repeater mode.

VreebieZ · 03-12-2003

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Originally posted by michaelp
i did it because of the reapeter mode, the linksys you would have to use two of them to setup a repeater mode.

Yes, many people take advantage of that feature in DLink firmware.

So why don't ppl directly buy DLink, instead of buying WAP11 then convert it to DLink?
Does Linksys AP has better hardware (sensitivity/power/stability) than Dlink AP?

michaelp · 03-12-2003

i did it because, I just had a linksys, and i couldnt return it..and the dlink firmware allowed this.

agentgrn · 03-12-2003

I'm willing to bet it's all the same hardware anyways...that's why the generic ROM and Amtel Utilities are popular on the first iteration of the WAP11 and others.

Though, the Linksys has conveniently removable antennas. Can't beat that!

VreebieZ · 03-13-2003

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Originally posted by agentgrn
Though, the Linksys has conveniently removable antennas. Can't beat that!

But the DWL-900AP+ has a removeable antenna too doesn't it?

The thing that confuse me, there is an option in DLink Websetup to set LEFT and RIGHT antenna.
I thought DLink AP only has one antenna, what do they mean by left or right antenna then?

billfinnie · 03-13-2003

everyone is getting things all mixed up.

there are 2 models of the 900AP
the DWL-900AP is older and only 802.11b not 802.11b+ thus it doesn't have the TI chipset. or extra modes like repeating. this older model also has a USB managment port.

the DWL-900AP+ has 5 modes no USB port, TI chipset enabling 802.11b+/22Mbps speeds, looks cooler in the new box, and some other little stuff.

linksys doesn't have the TI chipset thus they can only get 11Mbps speeds.

so the DWL-900AP might have mostly the same hardware thus allowing you to flash and use the USB utility.

but the DWL-900AP+ doesn't have the same hardware, one big thing being the different brand chipsets. it also has 2 antennas, one is internal (open it an look), thus allowing you to choose. one antenna is removable.

even I am confused at what exatly people are converting over. so hopefully this clears up some things, but probably not all.

VreebieZ · 03-13-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by billfinnie
it also has 2 antennas, one is internal (open it an look), thus allowing you to choose. one antenna is removable.

Ah I see... There is another one internal. Thanks billfinnie..
So which one is LEFT or RIGHT then?

peekitty · 03-13-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by billfinnie
everyone is getting things all mixed up.

My fault actually, for mentioning the DWL-900AP. Mea culpa.

Quote:

it also has 2 antennas, one is internal (open it an look), thus allowing you to choose. one antenna is removable.

At the risk of adding to the confusion, the older DWL-900AP also has a second, concealed antenna, it's just a short section of coax. No idea which is right or left, depends on if you're standing on your head or not.

VreebieZ: if you're considering flashing a DWL-900AP with the Linksys firmware, there really doesn't seem to be any benefit in terms of performance. I did it because I needed the "reset-to-defaults" button on the Linksys USB management utility, and flashed it due to my deep-seated neurosis for full compatibility.

IIRC, you can use the Linksys USB software on the DWL-900AP without changing the firmware.

billfinnie · 03-13-2003

yeah i am not sure which is left and which is right. i am guessing you could make it right only and note the signal strength then enable left only and see if it is better or worse. my guess is that the external antenna is the one that will give better signal.

or you could choose right antenna only then note your signal strength, then unscrew the external antenna and if the strength doesn't change then you have your answer since the signal strength should definitly dwindle when you unscrew it.

rewot · 04-06-2003

Left antena is internal. Right is removable.

DWL-900AP = WAP11 with USB port.
DWL-900+AP = WAP11 ver. 2.2 based on TI ACX100 Chipset.

DWL-900+AP and Linksys Wap11 2.2 are same hardware.

i reflash all my Linksys WAP11 ver. 2.2 to D-link for this reasons:

1. Stable link and no duplicated packets on heavy load channels.
2. Repeater mode !!! work fine only when use same AP ( D-link )
3. 802.11x

4. DHCP server.
5. Can be client to Cisco 350 series AP.
6. My linksys prize is 99$ but for D-link is 120$

7. ( Sci-Fi ) - PowerHack

output power 100-120mw.

this AP is good to be placed on ALL roof in repeater mode

for free low speed internet.

kleptophobiac · 04-06-2003

Power hack?

I didn't think there was such a thing for the wap11 2.2

rewot · 04-07-2003

7. ( Sci-Fi ) - PowerHack output power 100-120mw !!!

manual rewrite html file can be done.

on old Dlink firmware 2x power level was 19dbm , now at firmware 256 is 17 dbm, after i change manual 19 or 17 dbm to 20 and save that settings netstumbler has a Signal boots.

try it there are no way to broken your WAP11 ( reflashed to D-link )

kleptophobiac · 04-07-2003

I tried that back in the day.... and it just crashed the AP. Oh well, I don't care anymore, I have a one watt amp and a 50 foot mast.

03-12-2003	#1 (permalink)
VreebieZ Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Merged City of B/Cs Posts: 11	What's the advantages of "Hacked" WAP11 v2.2 compared to DWL-900AP+ ? I don't get the point "converting" Linksys WAP11 v2.2 to D-Link DWL-900AP+. Can anybody tell the advantages in doing so? Because I don't see the price differs that much; In fact, it is almost in the same price range. If DLink has better software inside their AP, why don't get DLink AP instead of troubling yourself converting Linksys AP to DLink AP? Can anyone clarify any hardware-advantages that WAP11 has, compared to DLink DWL-900AP+ ? Its sensitivity or antenna power perhaps?

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agentgrn KB1JQO - Packin' Heat Join Date: May 2002 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 517	I'm willing to bet it's all the same hardware anyways...that's why the generic ROM and Amtel Utilities are popular on the first iteration of the WAP11 and others. Though, the Linksys has conveniently removable antennas. Can't beat that! __________________ -A.G.-

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03-12-2003	#2 (permalink)
peekitty Macaca Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S. Florida Posts: 1,056	That's funny, the only way my DWL-900AP could be salvaged after I screwed it up was by flashing it with the WAP11 firmware. The Linksys USB management utility also has a few features that D-link's lacks.

03-12-2003	#3 (permalink)
michaelp Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 134	i did it because of the reapeter mode, the linksys you would have to use two of them to setup a repeater mode.

03-12-2003	#5 (permalink)
michaelp Master Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Washington State Posts: 134	i did it because, I just had a linksys, and i couldnt return it..and the dlink firmware allowed this.

03-13-2003	#8 (permalink)
billfinnie Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21	everyone is getting things all mixed up. there are 2 models of the 900AP the DWL-900AP is older and only 802.11b not 802.11b+ thus it doesn't have the TI chipset. or extra modes like repeating. this older model also has a USB managment port. the DWL-900AP+ has 5 modes no USB port, TI chipset enabling 802.11b+/22Mbps speeds, looks cooler in the new box, and some other little stuff. linksys doesn't have the TI chipset thus they can only get 11Mbps speeds. so the DWL-900AP might have mostly the same hardware thus allowing you to flash and use the USB utility. but the DWL-900AP+ doesn't have the same hardware, one big thing being the different brand chipsets. it also has 2 antennas, one is internal (open it an look), thus allowing you to choose. one antenna is removable. even I am confused at what exatly people are converting over. so hopefully this clears up some things, but probably not all.

03-13-2003	#11 (permalink)
billfinnie Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 21	yeah i am not sure which is left and which is right. i am guessing you could make it right only and note the signal strength then enable left only and see if it is better or worse. my guess is that the external antenna is the one that will give better signal. or you could choose right antenna only then note your signal strength, then unscrew the external antenna and if the strength doesn't change then you have your answer since the signal strength should definitly dwindle when you unscrew it.

04-06-2003	#12 (permalink)
rewot Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sofia,Bulgaria Posts: 21	Left antena is internal. Right is removable. DWL-900AP = WAP11 with USB port. DWL-900+AP = WAP11 ver. 2.2 based on TI ACX100 Chipset. DWL-900+AP and Linksys Wap11 2.2 are same hardware. i reflash all my Linksys WAP11 ver. 2.2 to D-link for this reasons: 1. Stable link and no duplicated packets on heavy load channels. 2. Repeater mode !!! work fine only when use same AP ( D-link ) 3. 802.11x 4. DHCP server. 5. Can be client to Cisco 350 series AP. 6. My linksys prize is 99$ but for D-link is 120$ 7. ( Sci-Fi ) - PowerHack output power 100-120mw. this AP is good to be placed on ALL roof in repeater mode for free low speed internet.

04-06-2003	#13 (permalink)
kleptophobiac Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 310	Power hack? I didn't think there was such a thing for the wap11 2.2

04-07-2003	#14 (permalink)
rewot Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sofia,Bulgaria Posts: 21	7. ( Sci-Fi ) - PowerHack output power 100-120mw !!! manual rewrite html file can be done. on old Dlink firmware 2x power level was 19dbm , now at firmware 256 is 17 dbm, after i change manual 19 or 17 dbm to 20 and save that settings netstumbler has a Signal boots. try it there are no way to broken your WAP11 ( reflashed to D-link )

04-07-2003	#15 (permalink)
kleptophobiac Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 310	I tried that back in the day.... and it just crashed the AP. Oh well, I don't care anymore, I have a one watt amp and a 50 foot mast.