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03-31-2005
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What's more important?
I've been searching around and I've been looking at 2 different options. One is a tri mode IBM card for $25 on tigerdirect, the other being one of those wifi packages on ebay. Now im wondering, which is more benificial - an external antenna or a dual / trimode card. Will I use a/g that much? Input will be greatly appreciated.
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Humourless EuroMod.
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From your post, you could be looking at making fresh coffee every morning at 7 AM, based on the (lack of) information you have given. S.O.P. when deciding to purchase equipment out in the Real World, is to define the task first, then research what equipment will be necessary to fullfill the requirement of that task, and then purchase that equipment within the alloted budget. (*) Also, I'd advise you to read all the posts in the Welcome Desk section, as well as reading the title and subtitle on the various forum sections, before posting your next message. The way it is written, your post doesn't have anything to do in this section: NetStumbler - Questions and configuration information about the NetStumbler software. This one will be a freebie so I have moved it to the Hardware section, where it seems like it might be better suited. But if you don't wisen up, it most probably will end up in The Bin sooner or later, and that isn't a place you would like to have posts ending up in. Dutch (*) That S.O.P doesn't apply to IT dept's with a plus on the purchasing account 1 week before the end of company Fiscal year, nor to AF, ARMY, NAVY or other governmental purchasing bodies who gladly pays 40.000 USD for standard toilet seats...
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03-31-2005
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Sorry, I should have been more descriptive.
I have a Compaq N620c laptop, and Im looking for a wifi card for basic wardriving. I commute to work every day and since I work downtown, I would assume there are lots of wifi spots to find. Since there are tall buildings I would assume that an antenna would be benificial, but if Im only going to pick up one type of network maybe It's not worth it. I've read that the range of the internal antennas in some cards aren't very good, and that most "wardriving" kits include an antenna. That's my dilemma. Will I pick up more AP's with a B card + antenna than a A/B/G card with no antenna, from street level in a heavy populated downtown area? |
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Did you do the math?
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Before you ask "Which antenna?" take a look through the general Antenna FAQ located here: FAQ It should answer a lot of questions. Pay attention to the third post down, regarding patterns, as it will affect how you detect APs above you in an urban setting. Also, you might want to look at why cheap antennae are bad: http://www.netstumbler.org/forumdisplay.php?f=23
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Interesting read. I noticed the part refering to the cheap antennas. Im guessing those ebay wardriving kits are making use of them?
I went back in the history of the hardware forum, but I couldn't get a concise answer on which is a good card to purchase. Seems to me that Orinco gold cards are mentioned alot. Im guessing that one with an antenna input would be preferable. I did however see a cisco card (340 series) on ebay with 2 antenna connectors. I also see that cisco aironet cards are #1 on the requirements for airsnort, and are supported by netstumbler. I guess my question is... Which card would be better? A cisco 340 series with 2 antennas, an Orinco gold card (8410WD or 8480WD)? (or any other good cards that stand out) |
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I amuse you?
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For basic wardriving get the 8410WD.
Here is a thread that points to some good deals on them. http://www.netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=15086 They look to be $23.95 @ http://www.emicrox.com/eShop/product....11&pid=844654 If you find a better deal please add it to the above thread (Orinoco Classic or rebadges only please). Last edited by wrzwaldo : 03-31-2005 at 12:22 PM. |
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Humourless EuroMod.
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ORiNOCO Dork Card = 8480WD Get the Classic Gold. Just one question though, You stated that you wanted to do basic wardriving. Why is Airsnort compatibility then so high up on your list ? Wardriving has nothing whatsoever to do with breaking into encrypted networks. Better head over to the Welcome Desk section again, and re-read the post about illegal network access, and then off to the FAQ section, and read up on the proper definition of wardriving. Dutch
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Sorry for the confusion. Im looking for a card that will work with everything. I would like to avoid buying one card for one use, and another card for another. I think I have to do a bit more reading though on what each specific program does.
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The classic Orinoco will work for everything you could possibly need - netstumbler under Windows and kismet under linux. You're not planning to connect to these networks, are you?
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Well, Im not at the stage to even know how to connect to them lol. Also, I've been looking for local places that sell the cards. Since im in canada, I can't seem to find anywhere that sells orinoco cards. Most websites like newegg and such won't ship to canada. I might have to ebay it.
Oh, can anyone offer opinions on a Dlink DWL-G650? Local store has them on sale and I searched the forums here and they appear to work. |
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