wifi coverage problems (we are the isp)

sunsetking · 10-20-2005

We own a 25 acer campground. We have a wifi system that we own. We are having coverage problems to some of our clients with weak wifi cards. We want 100% coverage to all wifi cards. Do we need repeaters?
Hears is our system:
We start with a dell sever which host our accounts & log on software for our custmers, next we go to a 4 port switch, next is a power over ethernet, next is 85' of cat 5 cable going up a 65' tower,next is an wisp box with 2 radios at 200mwatts each prism cards,next is mlr 400 cable (2' long) to a ydi 18db gain sector antenna. We have 2 ydi antena's on each side of the tower hooked to each radio. The radios use star os software and will not support wds.

Any suggestions?

streaker69 · 10-20-2005

So you're trying to cover 1089000 square feet with one access point? Have you walked your area with NS to see where youre weak spots are?

sunsetking · 10-20-2005

So you're trying to cover 1089000 square feet with one access point? Have you walked your area with NS to see where youre weak spots are?

Yes , we know our problem areas. We have 4 different areas that are week.
And also the wisp unit on the tower is just a bridge, and there are 2 radios in that unit. Which one antanna points east and one west. this tower is almost center of the campground. Thanks for your reply

streaker69 · 10-20-2005

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Originally Posted by sunsetking

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Originally Posted by streaker69

So you're trying to cover 1089000 square feet with one access point? Have you walked your area with NS to see where youre weak spots are?

Yes , we know our problem areas. We have 4 different areas that are week.
And also the wisp unit on the tower is just a bridge, and there are 2 radios in that unit. Which one antanna points east and one west. this tower is almost center of the campground. Thanks for your reply

So you're saying that you have other AP's in the area?

Can you give more information about all the equipment you have in place?

wrzwaldo · 10-20-2005

Can you post a map/diagram of the coverage area and show the problem areas? And it would be (weak) not "week". Just by what you have given I'd say your problem areas are north and south of the tower? Any downtilt on the antennas? What do you have for RF-LOS?

sunsetking · 10-20-2005

Map= http://www.sunsetking.com/modules.ph...view_photo.php

if you can dowload this map. the tower is located at the clubhouse by the swimming pool.

the weak ares are: U sites, Cabins 5,6,7,8 and E sites and the area behind the chapel.

streaker69 · 10-20-2005

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Originally Posted by sunsetking

Map= http://www.sunsetking.com/modules.ph...view_photo.php

if you can dowload this map. the tower is located at the clubhouse by the swimming pool.

the weak ares are: U sites, Cabins 5,6,7,8 and E sites and the area behind the chapel.

Sounds like an RF-LOS problem. Are the cabins and E sites on a downhill slope from your antenna?

Also, do you actually have more than 1 AP covering the area?

wrzwaldo · 10-20-2005

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Originally Posted by sunsetking

Map= http://www.sunsetking.com/modules.ph...view_photo.php

if you can dowload this map. the tower is located at the clubhouse by the swimming pool.

the weak ares are: U sites, Cabins 5,6,7,8 and E sites and the area behind the chapel.

Any downtilt on the antennas? What do you have for RF-LOS?

How about a diagram with a list and location of equipment? Where are the "U" sites?

If you really want help you will have to provide much better information.

sunsetking · 10-20-2005

the cabins are down hill, the e,and u. sites are up hill. and yes we have two radios one facing the lake and one facing a,b sites (ydi sector antennas)

yes there are some down tilt and i don't know th rf

wrzwaldo · 10-20-2005

The cabins could be suffering from lake backscatter.

What is the specs on the antennas? How many degrees of coverage are they worth? AFAIR sectors are more of a directional antenna and I'm thinking you would need at least 3 for 360 degree coverage.

What kind of noise levels did you get near/at the cabins?

streaker69 · 10-20-2005

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Originally Posted by sunsetking

the cabins are down hill, the e,and u. sites are up hill. and yes we have two radios one facing the lake and one facing a,b sites (ydi sector antennas)

yes there are some down tilt and i don't know th rf

You have two radios, but you told us earlier that they're functioning as a Bridge, what are they bridging from/to?

For them to be a bridge, they would have to have other AP's out there to connect to them.

Also, they put a shift key on the keyboard for a reason

sunsetking · 10-20-2005

What is the specs on the antennas? How many degrees of coverage are they worth? AFAIR sectors are more of a directional antenna and I'm thinking you would need at least 3 for 360 degree coverage.[size=2]

don't know the specs on the antennas , someone else put them up. i do know they are ydi 18dg gain sectors with somewhat of a downtilt. sorry

thanks for the input

sunsetking · 10-20-2005

the dell server acts as the AP

wrzwaldo · 10-20-2005

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Originally Posted by you

i don't know th rf

Also note that this is not our problem! Go do the math, learn how to spell, find your shift key then come back and ask an intelligent question. With enough information that one could move in a productive direction to assist you.

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Originally Posted by sunsetking

What is the specs on the antennas? How many degrees of coverage are they worth? AFAIR sectors are more of a directional antenna and I'm thinking you would need at least 3 for 360 degree coverage.[size=2]

don't know the specs on the antennas , someone else put them up. i do know they are ydi 18dg gain sectors with somewhat of a downtilt. sorry

thanks for the input

And use the forum quote function...

streaker69 · 10-20-2005

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Originally Posted by sunsetking

the dell server acts as the AP

I'm starting to get the feeling that you really don't know a whole lot about your own system.

At this point, I recommend that you contact a professional in your area to evaluate your situation and make recommendations as to what you can do to resolve your problems.

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sunsetking Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	wifi coverage problems (we are the isp) We own a 25 acer campground. We have a wifi system that we own. We are having coverage problems to some of our clients with weak wifi cards. We want 100% coverage to all wifi cards. Do we need repeaters? Hears is our system: We start with a dell sever which host our accounts & log on software for our custmers, next we go to a 4 port switch, next is a power over ethernet, next is 85' of cat 5 cable going up a 65' tower,next is an wisp box with 2 radios at 200mwatts each prism cards,next is mlr 400 cable (2' long) to a ydi 18db gain sector antenna. We have 2 ydi antena's on each side of the tower hooked to each radio. The radios use star os software and will not support wds. Any suggestions?

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streaker69 Psychic Amish Stumbler Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginville, BlueBall, Bird In Hand, Intercourse, Paradise, PA Posts: 12,240	So you're trying to cover 1089000 square feet with one access point? Have you walked your area with NS to see where youre weak spots are? __________________ Treat your gun like your genitals, only whip it out when it's absolutely necessary.

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wrzwaldo I amuse you? Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,147	Can you post a map/diagram of the coverage area and show the problem areas? And it would be (weak) not "week". Just by what you have given I'd say your problem areas are north and south of the tower? Any downtilt on the antennas? What do you have for RF-LOS? Last edited by wrzwaldo : 10-20-2005 at 09:40 PM.

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wrzwaldo I amuse you? Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 9,147	The cabins could be suffering from lake backscatter. What is the specs on the antennas? How many degrees of coverage are they worth? AFAIR sectors are more of a directional antenna and I'm thinking you would need at least 3 for 360 degree coverage. What kind of noise levels did you get near/at the cabins? Last edited by wrzwaldo : 10-20-2005 at 10:16 PM.

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10-20-2005	#3 (permalink)
sunsetking Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	So you're trying to cover 1089000 square feet with one access point? Have you walked your area with NS to see where youre weak spots are? Yes , we know our problem areas. We have 4 different areas that are week. And also the wisp unit on the tower is just a bridge, and there are 2 radios in that unit. Which one antanna points east and one west. this tower is almost center of the campground. Thanks for your reply

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sunsetking Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	Map= http://www.sunsetking.com/modules.ph...view_photo.php if you can dowload this map. the tower is located at the clubhouse by the swimming pool. the weak ares are: U sites, Cabins 5,6,7,8 and E sites and the area behind the chapel.

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sunsetking Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	the cabins are down hill, the e,and u. sites are up hill. and yes we have two radios one facing the lake and one facing a,b sites (ydi sector antennas) yes there are some down tilt and i don't know th rf

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sunsetking Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	What is the specs on the antennas? How many degrees of coverage are they worth? AFAIR sectors are more of a directional antenna and I'm thinking you would need at least 3 for 360 degree coverage.[size=2] don't know the specs on the antennas , someone else put them up. i do know they are ydi 18dg gain sectors with somewhat of a downtilt. sorry thanks for the input

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sunsetking Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6	the dell server acts as the AP