Xterasys

deadbyte · 07-18-2003

Does anyone know if the Xterasys Wireless NIC works with net stumbler?

shifflettj · 07-22-2003

I installed the Xteraysy in my Dell C600 running Windows XP and it seems to be running correctly.

Thorn · 07-22-2003

Same answer as always:

RTFM.
There is a README.HTML file which comes with NetStumbler. As the name implies, you should read it. Inside is a list of supported and unsupported cards. If it is not on the supported list, then it will not work. It may work in the NDIS mode* under XP/Win2k, but it may not. The NDIS mode seems to be very variable. Install at your own risk.

Read the FAQ thread for details.

*A bridged/pseudo mode that does not have all the standard NetStumbler features.

deadbyte · 07-22-2003

Well Thorn you really get the point accross with me, heh.

Thorn · 07-22-2003

Nothing personal; I tend to be rather direct, and make declarative statements. Some people who value social niceties over technically correct statements think this is too abrupt.

Most of this information is readily available, if you do some basic research (like the README file.) Unfortunately though, all too many people ask these questions time and again. This is what started the the FAQ thread. While the FAQ threads get read, the questions still come up.

I will admit the whole XP/NDIS/Prism chipset is confusing, but it is detailed.

Xenobane · 07-22-2003

Any wireless card should work with netstumbler in windows 2k/xp IF you get the driver from windows update which is 100% com with ndis 5.1.

Thorn · 07-23-2003

Wrong.

What part didn't you understand?

"It may work in the NDIS mode* under XP/Win2k, but it may not. The NDIS mode seems to be very variable.

*A bridged/pseudo mode that does not have all the standard NetStumbler features"

The truth is that NDIS mode:
A) Doesn't always work correctly,
B) Sometimes never works at all on a given machine, and
C) Because of the bridging nature, all of the features of NS are not always available. The best example is the Noise readings. They are always wrong: Any card using the NDIS driver gets a fixed noise measurement of -100db, making for an inaccurate measurement of SNR.

The only cards 100% guaranteed to work ar the Hermes chipset cards: ORiNOCO (classics) and rebrands. No other cards are supported.

Read the FAQs.

G8tK33per · 07-23-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Thorn

Read the FAQs.

Thorn...lookin' for this, bro?

Thorn · 07-23-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by G8tK33per
Thorn...lookin' for this, bro?

Turk82_1 · 08-24-2003

I installed the NDIS 5.1 driver...and while the NS app seems to work, now I can't get any connections to my OWN AP. This is an initial finding...I bet I am missing something obvious.

I also confirm the -100db Noise post of Thorn's.

deadbyte · 08-24-2003

I am going to sound like a complete idiot but where do I get the NDIS 5.1 driver and what is it?

HITMONEY · 08-24-2003

Butter?

Turk82_1 · 08-24-2003

It's part of the Win2K 'delivered' drivers.

Go to Network neighborhood, pick the card, hit "configure" where the card is listed ("General->Connect using).

Go to the 'drivers' tab. hit the "update driver" button. In the wizard, have it search for a driver on the C drive. Look for one that says something like netadm11.sys

After it configures, you might need to do a 'disable' then 'enable' on your card.

deadbyte · 08-24-2003

I cannot find a file such as 'netadm11.sys'. I am on Windows XP.

Turk82_1 · 08-24-2003

I like staying away from The Bleeding Edge when it comes to Microsoft products.

Wish I could help...there might be something in Control Panel or Device Manager, though.....or whatever they call them in XP

Any XP gurus - can ya help a brudda out?

07-18-2003	#1 (permalink)
deadbyte Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10	Xterasys Does anyone know if the Xterasys Wireless NIC works with net stumbler?

07-22-2003	#2 (permalink)
shifflettj Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1	Xterasys I installed the Xteraysy in my Dell C600 running Windows XP and it seems to be running correctly.

07-22-2003	#3 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,361	Same answer as always: RTFM. There is a README.HTML file which comes with NetStumbler. As the name implies, you should read it. Inside is a list of supported and unsupported cards. If it is not on the supported list, then it will not work. It may work in the NDIS mode* under XP/Win2k, but it may not. The NDIS mode seems to be *very* variable. Install at your own risk. Read the FAQ thread for details. A bridged/pseudo mode that does not have all the standard NetStumbler features. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged*. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"

07-22-2003	#5 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,361	Nothing personal; I tend to be rather direct, and make declarative statements. Some people who value social niceties over technically correct statements think this is too abrupt. Most of this information is readily available, if you do some basic research (like the README file.) Unfortunately though, all too many people ask these questions time and again. This is what started the the FAQ thread. While the FAQ threads get read, the questions still come up. I will admit the whole XP/NDIS/Prism chipset is confusing, but it is detailed. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"

07-22-2003	#6 (permalink)
Xenobane Registered Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 17	Any wireless card should work with netstumbler in windows 2k/xp IF you get the driver from windows update which is 100% com with ndis 5.1. __________________ )/\(ARDRIVING

07-22-2003	#4 (permalink)
deadbyte Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10	Well Thorn you really get the point accross with me, heh.

07-23-2003	#7 (permalink)
Thorn Did you do the math? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Villa Straylight Posts: 10,361	Wrong. What part didn't you understand? "It may work in the NDIS mode* under XP/Win2k, but it may not. The NDIS mode seems to be very variable. A bridged/pseudo mode that does not have all the standard NetStumbler features" The truth is that NDIS mode: A) Doesn't always work correctly, B) Sometimes never works at all on a given machine, and C) Because of the bridging nature, all of the features of NS are not always available. The best example is the Noise readings. They are always wrong: Any card using the NDIS driver gets a fixed noise measurement of -100db, making for an inaccurate measurement of SNR. The only cards 100% guaranteed to work ar the Hermes chipset cards: ORiNOCO (classics) and rebrands. No other cards are supported. Read the FAQs. __________________ Thorn "Read Altas Shrugged*. Compare it to today. Repeat as necessary"

08-24-2003	#10 (permalink)
Turk82_1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 8	Depends on what you mean by 'works' I installed the NDIS 5.1 driver...and while the NS app seems to work, now I can't get any connections to my OWN AP. This is an initial finding...I bet I am missing something obvious. I also confirm the -100db Noise post of Thorn's. __________________ Bill The Computer Guy

08-24-2003	#11 (permalink)
deadbyte Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10	I am going to sound like a complete idiot but where do I get the NDIS 5.1 driver and what is it?

08-24-2003	#12 (permalink)
HITMONEY Who Wants Butter??? Join Date: May 2003 Location: St. Pete Beach, FL. Posts: 529	Butter?

08-24-2003	#13 (permalink)
Turk82_1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 8	Where's NDIS 5.1 It's part of the Win2K 'delivered' drivers. Go to Network neighborhood, pick the card, hit "configure" where the card is listed ("General->Connect using). Go to the 'drivers' tab. hit the "update driver" button. In the wizard, have it search for a driver on the C drive. Look for one that says something like netadm11.sys After it configures, you might need to do a 'disable' then 'enable' on your card. __________________ Bill The Computer Guy

08-24-2003	#14 (permalink)
deadbyte Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10	I cannot find a file such as 'netadm11.sys'. I am on Windows XP. Last edited by deadbyte : 08-24-2003 at 09:36 PM.

08-24-2003	#15 (permalink)
Turk82_1 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 8	And I don't have Windows XP I like staying away from The Bleeding Edge when it comes to Microsoft products. Wish I could help...there might be something in Control Panel or Device Manager, though.....or whatever they call them in XP Any XP gurus - can ya help a brudda out? __________________ Bill The Computer Guy

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