Yeah this won't get abused: Netgear MR814

beakmyn · 02-24-2005

One of the setup options.

Dutch · 02-24-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by beakmyn

One of the setup options.

Sheesh... Got an FCC ID on the unit ? Then forward that picture and the FCC ID to the FCC by email, with a CC to Netgear, and ask if this is the right way to ensure that units keep within regulations. Could be interesting to see if they actually enforce the regulations.

Dutch

beakmyn · 02-24-2005

It's probably legal as it has all the right stamps:
Certifications:
- FCC Part 15, Class B (PD5LMWP200)
- Canada RSS-210 (3970104534A)
- UL, CSA
- CE

What I do question is that you can set it to something other then the US and still have the WEP encryption set to 128bit. I thought >40bit was could not be transported outside the US.

I'm going to have to investigate this further.

wrzwaldo · 02-24-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by beakmyn

It's probably legal as it has all the right stamps:
Certifications:

That may depend on what firmware it passed the FCC with...

edit:

2. Model: LM-WP200 and MA404 rev.B are identical, except brand name and model number.

Ooops!

[page 7 of the test report]

3.2 DESCRIPTION OF TEST MODES
Eleven channels are provided in this EUT.
Channel Frequency Channel Frequency

1 2412 MHz 7 2442 MHz
2 2417 MHz 8 2447 MHz
3 2422 MHz 9 2452 MHz
4 2427 MHz 10 2457 MHz
5 2432 MHz 11 2462 MHz
6 2437 MHz

I would think if one were so inclined they could stir the pot on this one.

Dutch · 02-24-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by beakmyn

It's probably legal as it has all the right stamps:
Certifications:
- FCC Part 15, Class B (PD5LMWP200)
- Canada RSS-210 (3970104534A)
- UL, CSA
- CE

What I do question is that you can set it to something other then the US and still have the WEP encryption set to 128bit. I thought >40bit was could not be transported outside the US.

I'm going to have to investigate this further.

Hmm.. Haven't seen one unit yet, ETSI or world wide capable, that didn't include 128 bit WEP.
Are you sure that WEP > 40 bit (and WPA) are covered by the non-export clause ?

Dutch

beakmyn · 02-24-2005

No just an assumption. That's where you Foreigners

chime in and tell me what you have.

The Others · 02-24-2005

The only time I ever witnessed anything about export restrictions and WEP or WPA was when I downloaded the Cisco client manager and drivers. To be honest, I cant remember what it said (either way, I downloaded them). I'll have a look see if my setup is still current, if not I'll download the new stuff and see what it says.

Airstreamer · 02-24-2005

My WG511 driver on loading on a virgin machine asked for a country location as well.

Didn't try to see if it choked on anything other than US though.

Steve

renderman · 02-24-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by beakmyn

I thought >40bit was could not be transported outside the US.

I'm going to have to investigate this further.

One of Clintons final acts was to lift the restrictions on crypto export. Codes still have to be 'approved' but the key size does'nt really matter (except for the usual suspects. Syria, Iran, N. Korea, Cuba, etc).

So long as the algorithm is approved for export, you don't need to worry about key size.

Or something like that

beakmyn · 02-24-2005

Once you click ok you're free to change it to any channel of your choosing without ever being bothered again.

I decided to do some research:

I fired up Kismet and changed the channel and something quite peculiar happened. While the router is changing the channel it also briefly changes the SSID! With each change Kismet saw the router with SSID of "First" before it got re-initialized to its actual SSID of 'Pining' (yes my other AP is named fjords)

Interesting.

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