Helical antenna on access point?

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Postby Thorn » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:47 am

austin7777 wrote:Thanks guys, your insight into the realm of wireless technology is unfathomable.

And I say again: DID YOU DO THE MATH? Without doing that the answer is a definite "Maybe, maybe not."
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Postby wrzwaldo » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:48 am

austin7777 wrote:Thanks guys, your insight into the realm of wireless technology is unfathomable.


Did you do any reading in the welcome desk?

After you have exhausted all resources (searching here and the web) and you really need some help, please provide enough information so someone will not have to guess what you want or what you are trying to do (should be NS related or at least wireless related).

The following information should be considered minimum.

1. What OS are you using (including installed service packs)?

2. What specific hardware (wireless) are you using?

3. Are there any errors associated with the hardware? (have you checked device manager and event viewer for errors?)

4. Are you using the vendor supplied client manager or is windows controlling things?

5. Have you installed any third party firmware or hacked the factory firmware?

6. If applicable, what firmware version are you currently using?

Note that a couple of these are M$ Windows specific and should be tailored to your specific OS.

If you are asking for help with a wireless link the following information will help.

1. Have you calcuated your link budget, SOM, fresnel zone? Many of the caclulators are available online. (please post your numbers).

2. Is the hardware you have selected compatible? In some instances mixed vendor equipment is NOT compatible! The owners manual and vendor support network can help determine this.


Also note that if you provide at least this much information someone will be more apt to provide assistance and you will be less likely to attract flames.
(unless the issue has been addressed in a past post where a SEARCH would have provided the answer!)


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Postby sytruz » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:07 am

Wow. This forum is pretty harsh. I had the same issue as the original poster, but have received absolutely nothing in the way of informatoin in this thread. The poster had a legitimate question, but you guys really harshed on him. So he doesn't know anything, so what? You guys can help, but won't. This makes me sad. :( See? I'm sad.
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Postby Thorn » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:19 am

sytruz wrote:Wow. This forum is pretty harsh. I had the same issue as the original poster, but have received absolutely nothing in the way of informatoin in this thread. The poster had a legitimate question, but you guys really harshed on him. So he doesn't know anything, so what? You guys can help, but won't. This makes me sad. :( See? I'm sad.

He has supplied us with almost no information, and he was asked several times about the math. With nothing to go on, what answer should he (or you) expect?
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Postby Airstreamer » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:22 am

sytruz wrote:Wow. This forum is pretty harsh. I had the same issue as the original poster, but have received absolutely nothing in the way of informatoin in this thread. The poster had a legitimate question, but you guys really harshed on him. So he doesn't know anything, so what? You guys can help, but won't. This makes me sad. :( See? I'm sad.


Then go be sad somewhere that you get spoon fed.

There is a WEALTH of information obtainable by searching.

"Fill in the blank" calculators abound on the web.

Drop in the distances, power, antenna gain and some of the other parameters and *poof* out pops the number.

People around here get irritated when they get the SAME FRIGGIN' QUESTION over AND over AND OVER again!

And to boot, the questions have been ANSWERED ON this forum so damn many times that a cursory read of the FAQs will answer 95% of the questions even before they are asked.


Almost id10t proof.

Noticed I said ALMOST. Use that crap between your ears for something other than keeping a vacuum from forming.
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Postby Dutch » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:27 am

sytruz wrote:Wow. This forum is pretty harsh. I had the same issue as the original poster, but have received absolutely nothing in the way of informatoin in this thread. The poster had a legitimate question, but you guys really harshed on him. So he doesn't know anything, so what? You guys can help, but won't. This makes me sad. :( See? I'm sad.

WTF do we care if you're sad ?
Go sit under the boardwalk and monitr the waves if that makes you happier...
Better yet, go sit under the waves and monitr the boardwalk, if you want to make us happier... ;)

Buuuusted! :D

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Postby Monitr7 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:52 am

[quote="Dutch"]WTF do we care if you're sad ?
Go sit under the boardwalk and monitr the waves if that makes you happier...
Better yet, go sit under the waves and monitr the boardwalk, if you want to make us happier... ]

Heh, heh. Pretty much... :o
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Postby streaker69 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:53 am

austin7777 wrote:Thanks guys, your insight into the realm of wireless technology is unfathomable.


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Postby wrzwaldo » Fri Jun 17, 2005 9:57 am

sytruz wrote:Wow. This forum is pretty harsh. I had the same issue as the original poster, but have received absolutely nothing in the way of informatoin in this thread. The poster had a legitimate question, but you guys really harshed on him. So he doesn't know anything, so what? You guys can help, but won't. This makes me sad. :( See? I'm sad.


You could always use the alternative... Go Somewhere Else!
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Postby ldti » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:36 am

ALL MOD'S , PLEASE TAKE NOTE:sytruz
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Postby Dutch » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:58 am

ldti wrote:ALL MOD'S , PLEASE TAKE NOTE:sytruz


Don't worry.. We have had him monitred for the last seven days actually... ;)

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Postby Monitr7 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:45 am

[quote="Dutch"]Don't worry.. We have had him monitred for the last seven days actually... ]

How many times does a "citrus" clone have to come back, I ask you? Bastards! ;)
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Postby austin7777 » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:50 am

I wasnt trying to stir up so much trouble.

My question is not about bridging the gap between the two points. I can figure out that by myself, and with the help of your tools. My question is fairly simple, but I am uneducated in this subject so I turned to the experts.

Here we go: Can I hook my homemade antenna to a Linksys access point/router, point it at another wifi card in my pc some unimportant distance away, and have it work?

I have only seen the cantennas/helicals hooked directly to a PC or notebook and never to a router. The question seems pretty silly to me and you will probably flame me for it, but I just want to make sure before I start installation.
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Postby Thorn » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:19 pm

austin7777 wrote:I wasnt trying to stir up so much trouble.

My question is not about bridging the gap between the two points. I can figure out that by myself, and with the help of your tools. My question is fairly simple, but I am uneducated in this subject so I turned to the experts.

Here we go: Can I hook my homemade antenna to a Linksys access point/router, point it at another wifi card in my pc some unimportant distance away, and have it work?

I have only seen the cantennas/helicals hooked directly to a PC or notebook and never to a router. The question seems pretty silly to me and you will probably flame me for it, but I just want to make sure before I start installation.

In theory, yes.

However, note that I qualified it by saying "in theory". Whether it will actually function well or even at all is highly dependant on a number of factors. You can determine the influence of those factors by doing the math. Hence those responces. In other words, we can't tell if it might actually work or not without more information.
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Re: Helical antenna on access point?

Postby burning_wi_fi » Mon May 07, 2012 1:09 am

You can get fantastic results netstumbling with a Helical Wi fi antenna or a Yagi Wi fi antenna at those links. Bear in mind that the helical is circularly polarized - less sensitive to rain and / or being angled relative to the access point.
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