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brwrdrvr wrote:Isn't that what mbolglian use to do? Bad experiments with bad information or the lack of? I can not believe that this far into the evolutionary tract of our species that the NanoGods would allow this.

The NanoGods haven't reversed the ruling that prostitution is illegal here in the USA except in certain areas so I think we haven't gotten that far yet.

itsnotme wrote:The NanoGods haven't reversed the ruling that prostitution is illegal here in the USA except in certain areas so I think we haven't gotten that far yet.

That's why the NanoGods made islands in the Caribbean.

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tilhasbb wrote:streaker69> I asked to get someone to fish the wire and it would cost around 300-400$ i figure that would be around the same price to convert everyone to N. Might as well convert to N. but I realize N isn't 4x the range as they say.

itsnotme> I did do some searching and I know all the stuff about the N but I have not found ONE REVIEW showing the range of N compare to G.
I googled and googled. 2-3 aps to distribute the network? ehhhh i think your the that needs to do more research.
I do the same setup i have for all my friends/clients and it always covers their entire home including basement. I just have a special case because of the conceret inforced basement (I dont know why...lol)

brwrdrvr> Point out the bad experiment!
I am an engineering student and I did everything by the book.

Your name in a previous life wasn't mboligan wasn't it?

<sigh>

<double sigh>

tilhasbb wrote:streaker69> I asked to get someone to fish the wire and it would cost around 300-400$ i figure that would be around the same price to convert everyone to N. Might as well convert to N. but I realize N isn't 4x the range as they say.

Go to the local hardware store, and buy a fish, a nylon line, and a couple of washers to use as weights. Total cost will be about $35. Now run it yourself. There, I just saved you $365.

tilhasbb wrote:itsnotme> I did do some searching and I know all the stuff about the N but I have not found ONE REVIEW showing the range of N compare to G.
I googled and googled. 2-3 aps to distribute the network? ehhhh i think your the that needs to do more research.
I do the same setup i have for all my friends/clients and it always covers their entire home including basement. I just have a special case because of the conceret inforced basement (I dont know why...lol)

You seem to have missed the a couple of major facts. I certainly hope you're not actually charging people. Your lack of knowledge is showing. It depends on a number of factors, but two or three APs are not unusual in many residential locations.

tilhasbb wrote:brwrdrvr> Point out the bad experiment!
I am an engineering student and I did everything by the book.

Not to put words in brwdrvr's mouth, but you seem to be missing the fact that the 'N standard' is not. It has not yet been ratified, and is still in a state of flux. So your assumptions about how N should be performing are based on something that has little or no firm foundation. False assumptions don't sound like it's "by the book."

tilhasbb wrote:streaker69> I asked to get someone to fish the wire and it would cost around 300-400$ i figure that would be around the same price to convert everyone to N. Might as well convert to N. but I realize N isn't 4x the range as they say.

itsnotme> I did do some searching and I know all the stuff about the N but I have not found ONE REVIEW showing the range of N compare to G.
I googled and googled. 2-3 aps to distribute the network? ehhhh i think your the that needs to do more research.
I do the same setup i have for all my friends/clients and it always covers their entire home including basement. I just have a special case because of the conceret inforced basement (I dont know why...lol)

brwrdrvr> Point out the bad experiment!
I am an engineering student and I did everything by the book.

Yeppers, because everything that works in the book works in the real world.

Typical engineering hogwash. You really need to do a lot more reading and practical work. Just because something works one way in one situation does not mean it will work in all.

Streaker told you how to set the house up to properly wash it over with RF. You need to learn how RF theory works and how the different frequencies react to different construction materials. he was also suggesting that you pull the wire yourself. Not hiring someone to do it. Streaker, as most people here on the forum, are DIYers.

Did the experiment by the book, eh? How about you give us a link to the part of the book you used or scan the pages and set up a link so we can read this awesome book that explains everything about networking/wireless networking/RF theory/ and construction materials and how they act upon RF. How to set up a proper experiment for testing such a vast assembly of all these different things.

Hint: if you were going to test the radios on different access points, the only thing you should change out the is the radios. Antennas should never be changed out. You also forgot that electronics, even though they try to make every item the same, they do vary in construction resulting in differences in performance. Especially if they were made from different manufacturers. This is why you can buy one item and it only works for so many hours of operation and another manufactured by the same company can last longer or shorter. You might be a smart engineering student, but you lack in common sense.

If you are wondering about all the mboglian comments, I would do a forum search.

Edit: forgot another point. If you are testing range then you want to try different antennas on the same radio.

tilhasbb wrote:-chop-
I am an engineering student and I did everything by the book.

You need to take remedial Horse-Sense 101.

brwrdrvr wrote:
Streaker told you how to set the house up to properly wash it over with RF. You need to learn how RF theory works and how the different frequencies react to different construction materials. he was also suggesting that you pull the wire yourself. Not hiring someone to do it. Streaker, as most people here on the forum, are DIYers.

Not only a DIYer, but a professional as well. You missed that point.

And if anybody knows something about RF theory it's the Amish. They practically invented wireless!

beakmyn wrote:And if anybody knows something about RF theory it's the Amish. They practically invented wireless!

Yep, been living without wires since the 1600's.

streaker69 wrote:Not only a DIYer, but a professional as well. You missed that point.

Most of us here are professionals. I just figured that was a given.

brwrdrvr wrote:Most of us here are professionals. I just figured that was a given.

Yea, but professional what?

Barry wrote:Yea, but professional what?

Hmm. So many ways to answer that one.

brwrdrvr wrote:Most of us here are professionals. I just figured that was a given.

You know that, I know that, but the OP doesn't know that. He probably thinks that we're all a bunch of punkass kids like Barry deals with.