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NetStumbler / Vista Update

Postby valic » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:04 am

For those that might be interested:
I'm testing Vista (Ultimate) on the following:

Toshiba laptop (Satellite A45-S151)
2.8Ghz
1.2 Gig Ram
Internal Atheros WiFi (NDIS mode SNR is incorrect as expected)
Orinoco Gold Wifi Card (Reporting SNR correctly)
USB GPS (with GpsGate 2.0)

and a custom built (Via Motherboard) unit.
1.2Ghz
1 Gig Ram
Orinoco Gold Wifi Card (Reporting SNR correctly)
USB GPS (with GpsGate 2.0)

I'm 1 week into testing and for the record, Netstumbler runs fine on both machines.

Which is more then I can say for some of my other apps (smile)

EDIT: Screen Print from VIA Machine (warning 200k file)
[SIZE="1"]
APRS is ALMOST as much fun as WarDriving. [URL=http://location.n3ujj.com][color="Red"]
Click here for my last APRS location[/color][/URL]
[INDENT]WigleStats:
Total New Discovered Networks with GPS: 20,343
All Networks Recorded: 24,731
[/INDENT][/SIZE]
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Postby Scruge » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:53 am

Not that I'll be upgrading soon, but good to know VIA worked. I've got same in el cheapo <$300 notebook.
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Postby valic » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:03 am

Scruge wrote:Not that I'll be upgrading soon, but good to know VIA worked. I've got same in el cheapo <$300 notebook.


It's the heaviest laptop I've ever owned
But it is a workhorse (the wife dropped it off a table, and it didn't even scratch)
[SIZE="1"]
APRS is ALMOST as much fun as WarDriving. [URL=http://location.n3ujj.com][color="Red"]
Click here for my last APRS location[/color][/URL]
[INDENT]WigleStats:
Total New Discovered Networks with GPS: 20,343
All Networks Recorded: 24,731
[/INDENT][/SIZE]
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Postby ssj4gogeta » Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:58 am

Was just looking up to see how to get vista working on my new laptop glad to hear that it does work.
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Postby sonjamichelle » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:03 am

What did you do in order to get NetStumbler to work in Vista. I didn't think it was compatible. In fact there's a thread telling people to not even ask about an update, to just wait "quietly" until there is a new version, IF there will be one.
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Postby wrzwaldo » Fri Apr 20, 2007 8:05 am

sonjamichelle wrote:What did you do in order to get NetStumbler to work in Vista. I didn't think it was compatible. In fact there's a thread telling people to not even ask about an update, to just wait "quietly" until there is a new version, IF there will be one.


Who the hell are you talking to?
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Postby Barry » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:53 pm

valic wrote:For those that might be interested:
I'm testing Vista (Ultimate) on the following:

Toshiba laptop (Satellite A45-S151)
2.8Ghz
1.2 Gig Ram
Internal Atheros WiFi (NDIS mode SNR is incorrect as expected)
Orinoco Gold Wifi Card (Reporting SNR correctly)
USB GPS (with GpsGate 2.0)

and a custom built (Via Motherboard) unit.
1.2Ghz
1 Gig Ram
Orinoco Gold Wifi Card (Reporting SNR correctly)
USB GPS (with GpsGate 2.0)

I'm 1 week into testing and for the record, Netstumbler runs fine on both machines.

Which is more then I can say for some of my other apps (smile)

EDIT: Screen Print from VIA Machine (warning 200k file)



Hey look! The Sears guy is there.
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Postby valic » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:39 am

sonjamichelle wrote:What did you do in order to get NetStumbler to work in Vista. I didn't think it was compatible. In fact there's a thread telling people to not even ask about an update, to just wait "quietly" until there is a new version, IF there will be one.


Have you tried to load and run NetStumbler on Vista (and it didn't run)?
Or were you just asking if it took anything special?
[color="Red"]Remember, no two machines are identical (most of the time), what worked for me, might not work for you.[/color]

**Thorn,
Hope I didn't cause a problem with the original post, it was only to keep everyone informed.
[SIZE="1"]
APRS is ALMOST as much fun as WarDriving. [URL=http://location.n3ujj.com][color="Red"]
Click here for my last APRS location[/color][/URL]
[INDENT]WigleStats:
Total New Discovered Networks with GPS: 20,343
All Networks Recorded: 24,731
[/INDENT][/SIZE]
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Postby brwrdrvr » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:47 am

valic wrote:Have you tried to load and run NetStumbler on Vista (and it didn't run)?
Or were you just asking if it took anything special?
Remember, no two machines are identical (most of the time), what worked for me, might not work for you.

**Thorn,
Hope I didn't cause a problem with the original post, it was only to keep everyone informed.


That would be the magic statement right there. You could have put it in bold text, but the tards don't pay attention to that either. :D
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Postby valic » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:00 am

brwrdrvr wrote:That would be the magic statement right there. You could have put it in bold text, but the tards don't pay attention to that either. :D


Done :D
[SIZE="1"]
APRS is ALMOST as much fun as WarDriving. [URL=http://location.n3ujj.com][color="Red"]
Click here for my last APRS location[/color][/URL]
[INDENT]WigleStats:
Total New Discovered Networks with GPS: 20,343
All Networks Recorded: 24,731
[/INDENT][/SIZE]
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Postby valic » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:02 am

Barry wrote:Hey look! The Sears guy is there.


How did you know I worked for Sears?
(just kidding)
[SIZE="1"]
APRS is ALMOST as much fun as WarDriving. [URL=http://location.n3ujj.com][color="Red"]
Click here for my last APRS location[/color][/URL]
[INDENT]WigleStats:
Total New Discovered Networks with GPS: 20,343
All Networks Recorded: 24,731
[/INDENT][/SIZE]
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NetStumbler with Atheros and Vista

Postby liteFun » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:34 am

I just wanted to say that with my Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pa 1510 (1GB RAM, AMD Sempron 3200+ (1.6GHz) mobile processor) laptop, NetStumbler works with Windows Vista Ultimate AND Atheros.
Using NDIS5.1 drivers for Atheros5005G integrated wi-fi card.
Screenshot http://humppa.pp.fi/stumbler_vista.jpg for all interested.
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Postby beakmyn » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:42 am

Wondeful but that graph means absolutely nothing.
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Postby Barry » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:44 am

liteFun wrote:I just wanted to say that with my Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Pa 1510 (1GB RAM, AMD Sempron 3200+ (1.6GHz) mobile processor) laptop, NetStumbler works with Windows Vista Ultimate AND Atheros.
Using NDIS5.1 drivers for Atheros5005G integrated wi-fi card.
Screenshot http://humppa.pp.fi/stumbler_vista.jpg for all interested.



I still think it's funny my MacBook gets better "Windows Experience" scores than alot of laptops I've seen.
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Postby liteFun » Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:00 am

beakmyn wrote:Wondeful but that graph means absolutely nothing.

I think you mean Netstumbler graph? Actually, I have found it means a lot for me.
I took a walk on yard and found that bars droppped down to about -80dB and then Vista couldn't connect to AP any more :)
So those graphs are telling some information to me if I'm too far away from my AP, no need to wonder why that stupid Windows won't connect...

Barry wrote:I still think it's funny my MacBook gets better "Windows Experience" scores than alot of laptops I've seen.

Sure, Windows experience score is everything in using Windows Vista :) I planned to use my laptop eg. for checking my AP's signal strentghts in my yard and so, not for gaming.
If you look what processor that laptop has, it's not surprising why it gets 2,1 in score. AMD Sempron 3200+ mobile processor is not as good as some MacBooks processor in calculations... In my laptop it is just that processor thats getting low scores.

My point was that NetStumbler works with Windows Vista and Atheros-based wi-fi (with NDIS5.1) for me (maybe it could work for you too?), nothing more, and for that screenshot I didn't mean anything like "look my Vista how candy it is and what wonderful gadgets i have there!!!", no. I just like to see some minor things just on my screen bigger than they appear on taskbar, just for quick look on the fly...
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