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Postby Tekit » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:31 am

Ahh ok thanks :)

Now I just gotta find a car charger for my IBM T30 :p
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Postby theprez98 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:02 am

ccie4526 wrote:I'll vouch for this, most all the APs found in the Perth/Freemantle area that show up on Wigle were from my trip over there a couple years ago, although it looks like someone new has posted a few more recently.

Been to Perth and Freo three times. Absoutely love the place. The Indiana Tea House on Cottesloe Beach is one of my favorite stops.
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Postby theprez98 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:44 am

theprez98 wrote:Been to Perth and Freo three times. Absoutely love the place. The Indiana Tea House on Cottesloe Beach is one of my favorite stops.

Just to clarify, the Indiana Tea House is an actual restaurant that serves actual food (actually, I don't even know if they serve tea). :p
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Postby streaker69 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:45 am

theprez98 wrote:Just to clarify, the Indiana Tea House is an actual restaurant that serves actual food. :p


Do they also serve Tea?
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Postby theprez98 » Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:47 am

streaker69 wrote:Do they also serve Tea?

Honestly, I have no idea.
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Postby Spanky6186 » Wed Sep 21, 2005 8:43 pm

Hey Shaun,

I just noticed your post.

Are you still looking for an app to do NS1 files to OziExplorer maps?

Head over to the Windows section, look at the post 'management of stumbling data' - I think you'll find its exactly what you are after. It does raw NS1 data extraction (no need to do an NS1 export)

If it isn't, let me know & I'll be happy to tweak it for ya.

BTW, I realise that the current version there will only work with up to 500 points for a single map, I'm currently working on a version that will create multiple OziExplorer map files for a given map if > 500 points are found (i.e. Coronation Drive in Milton/Toowong!)

Heh, my bad, didn't look at your link from a few posts back! I guess that would be my tool you're linking to!

If you are still having drama's using it, let me know I can knock up an FAQ/user guide for ya if you like.
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Postby ShaunLeeClarke » Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:06 pm

Yeah, I was having some big issues with that utility. The problem I was experiencing was the program crashing, not that I didn't know how to use it. It just gives a runtme error about not a valid Win32 FileTime when I attempt to convert a file.

See attached screenshot.

I also tried it with a .NS1 file with a single AP but it still failed, so there must be something it doesn't like about my files.
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Postby Spanky6186 » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:04 pm

Bugger, haven't seen that one before.

Any chance you can send me a simple NS1 file that you've attempted to convert?

I am in the process of working on a new version (a few fixes plus a much nicer UI!), m'be I can get a quickfix in place for you plus a simple user guide. Like I said in the original post, it really was intended mostly as a programmers guide and some source code, the tool itself was intended initially just as a 'see it works' sort of test thingie ....

Send the zipped file to dgt0011 at hotmail dot com.

I've got a bit of spare time this weekend, so if I can get that from you I should hopefully have something for you by Sunday arvo or early Monday.
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Postby ShaunLeeClarke » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:13 am

I've sent you an email with the .NS1 file.

Let me know how it goes.
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Postby streaker69 » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:15 am

ShaunLeeClarke wrote:I've sent you an email with the .NS1 file.

Let me know how it goes.


Have you tried to re-open that NS1 file in NS since you saved it? It sounds like it's corrupted. If you can't open it, then go to Beakmyn's page and download the NS1 File Recovery tool.
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Postby ShaunLeeClarke » Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:36 pm

The file does not appear corrupted because I can reopen it without any problems.
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Postby Spanky6186 » Sat Sep 24, 2005 3:58 pm

No, theres no problem with the file, it hasn't been corrupted.

FYI Shaun, I just ran the code over the file you sent me without a problem. The line that is failing for you is converting a value into a date time value, it doesn't care when it actually is(well, its at least got to be A.D. anyways).

I will add some extra tracing code & m'be some wrapping of these functions so that they at least don't kill the rest of the processing as much as I can, and I'll let you know when a new version is available for download. The problem is that the changes I am making are mostly in the same area, so I'll have to probably finalise those before I release again - another couple of days?
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Postby ShaunLeeClarke » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:42 pm

So is it a confirmed bug in the program?

And which data in my .NS1 file was causing the issue? Was it the first and last seen values?
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Postby Spanky6186 » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:21 pm

Hmm, I guess trying to interpret a last seen date that is prior to 01/01/1601 could be considered to be a bug I guess, yes. It's not something that I really considered would be an issue, but it certainly appears that a date prior to this can appear in the netstumbler log files.

I'll be adding some tests for these sort of dates & defaulting them to something a little less 'historical' when it finds them.

I'm guessing here, but I suspect that the date for last seen / first seen in the Netstumber log file is being set based on the GPS. The reason I say this is because later on in the log file your GPS appears to have burped, setting its altitude to -2000 meters and the date to something around the early 17th century. It seems to have set itself right again shortly thereafter, but I guess I need to cater for wierdness like this (the GPS I use - a Magellan Meridian and a Fortuna U2 don't seem to have this issue)

I'll post again once I have a new version for you (and anyone else interested)
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Postby ShaunLeeClarke » Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:40 am

That's weired...

With the altitude, it's possible that I only had a 2D fix at the time, ant that maybe -2000 meters is the default value. The GPS is a Fortuna GPSmart, a cheap unit.

And I have no idea how a dodgy date got in there... Very strange. I woundn't think that it would get the date or time from the GPS though, doesn't make sense.

And I wasn't even aware NetStumbler logged the dates or altidude. AFAIK it doesn't display them anywhere. The first and last seen fields only display a time.

Well, good luck with it :).
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