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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:15 am
by LarryLaser
streaker69 wrote:If you've been using them for years, then you've been getting inaccurate results for years.


Of course, that is why I ordered my Deluxe NetStumbler Kit and BUFFALO AirStation WLI-CB-G54S card

like I said
fairly good results

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:17 am
by theprez98
LarryLaser wrote:I have read all of NS documentation and have been using NS for years on a number of box's, including Mini Stumbler on my iPAQ 5500 series.
I have 5 different wireless nic's (both usb and pci) and have always had got fairly good results from most of them.

You could use these devices for 100 years but it doesn't change the fact that they are not supported. "Fairly good results" compared to what? If you've never actually used a supported device, you're comparing fairly good to nothing.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:27 pm
by wrzwaldo
LarryLaser wrote:Of course, that is why I ordered my Deluxe NetStumbler Kit and BUFFALO AirStation WLI-CB-G54S card

like I said


Unsupported as well. :rolleyes:

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:28 pm
by compstuff
Hello All,

This is my first post and I'm already anticipating getting flammed :)

I have been reading for days and yes SEARCHING as the readme clearly states :) but frankly I can't seem to find a clear answer... infact the issue seems to be as clear as mud. Unfortunately people seem to post incomplete info and also in the wrong threads which makes the reading difficult and the moderators work hard... kudos to the moderators!!!

I am not an actual "wardriver" I am a network engineer that is new to wireless but learning quickly. I am looking to test wirless design and I recently found NetStumbler and WOW what an awesome tool!!! My current laptop is a Dell Latitude D400 which consists of an Intel 2200B/G card that does seem to function but as cleary stated is not "supported". Yes I recognize that but it was actually quite helpful during some initial testing but damn I really would like to get the noise level and an accurate SNR.

Yes I am getting to my point :)

Tech question 1:

If I am testing B/G networks (actually wrt54gl's) is it required that I use a B/G card or is just a B card fine for benchmarking?

2: Depending on answer to 1:

I would like to purchase a card that "works" with NetStumbler and provides SNR but I am under a time contraint and I am wondering if I can buy a common brand at BestBuy or CompUSA that people have confirmed "working" with NetStumbler.

From what I have read it seems clear that the only supported card is a B card with a specific chipset but I am too green to RF to fully understand if I need to be measuring B or G or both to validate my designs.

I am more than happy to read anything that anyone would like to refer me to and I would greatly appreciate any assistance offered.

As a final note I use XP SP2 on my D400 and I am currently experimenting with some bootable Linux version such as Knopix and Slax but I am an MCSE so yes my comfort zone is MS :)

Thanks in advance!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:53 pm
by G8tK33per
B cards will detect G networks, SNR is reported correctly ONLY with the Hermes chipset. Search on Orinoco Classic.

Might look at this..

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:06 pm
by Airstreamer

PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:11 pm
by fregniacciaro
G8tK33per wrote:B cards will detect G networks, SNR is reported correctly ONLY with the Hermes chipset. Search on Orinoco Classic.


compstuff: BestBuy and CompUSA sell shit cards. The Orinoco is what you need, but it's not available OTC. Try here.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:16 pm
by DaKahuna


Makes me wonder if it would work with Wireshark on the MAC. This bears looking into further.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:35 am
by alchemyx
Maybe not very hi-end hardware, but Edimax EW-7108PCg works fine (based on some Ralink chip).

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:51 pm
by cverrcv
I would like to report that the DLink PCI card DWL-AG530 works perfectly well with Netstumbler 0.4.0

By the way, I've choosen this card because it is the most sensitive card that I'v seen so far as concern its receiving sensitivity to weak signals.

I'm using it in an old 8 years old Pentium 3 system and it works perfectly well even if the card is PCI 2.2 while this old motherboard is only PCI 1.0

PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:52 pm
by streaker69
cverrcv wrote:I would like to report that the DLink PCI card DWL-AG530 works perfectly well with Netstumbler 0.4.0

By the way, I've choosen this card because it is the most sensitive card that I'v seen so far as concern its receiving sensitivity to weak signals.

I'm using it in an old 8 years old Pentium 3 system and it works perfectly well even if the card is PCI 2.2 while this old motherboard is only PCI 1.0


You mean it even properly reports SNR?

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:18 am
by theprez98
streaker69 wrote:You mean it even properly reports SNR?

waits for it...

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:48 am
by Jockstumbler
Hi.. first post! Belkin 7050 v4 usb works great with the supplied drivers, but Ive found there are more options for the device if you use the ZyDas 1211b drivers including a rfmon driver !
http://atheros.com/RD/downloads/download_ZD1211B.htm.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:18 am
by streaker69
Jockstumbler wrote:Hi.. first post! Belkin 7050 v4 usb works great with the supplied drivers, but Ive found there are more options for the device if you use the ZyDas 1211b drivers including a rfmon driver ! (http://atheros.com/RD/downloads/download_ZD1211B.htm).


You mean it actually properly reports SNR?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:29 am
by Jockstumbler
:confused: (At college now..Ill check that later tonight):confused: