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Cards that reportedly do NOT work/ have problems w/NetStumbler 0.4

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:55 am
by marius
Be warned that NS 0.4's Atheros support is poor. Yes, it works, but the driver has the annoying habit of reporting everything it's seen in the last 2 minutes, rather than what it can see right now. NS 0.4 works around this but it may cause APs to appear and disappear.

Use an Atheros card in NDIS 5.1 mode to see it without the workaround. It's scary.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:58 am
by G8tK33per
marius wrote:Be warned that NS 0.4's Atheros support is poor. Yes, it works, but the driver has the annoying habit of reporting everything it's seen in the last 2 minutes, rather than what it can see right now. NS 0.4 works around this but it may cause APs to appear and disappear.

Use an Atheros card in NDIS 5.1 mode to see it without the workaround. It's scary.

sounds like our first NS v0.4 FAQ entry!

Mine doesnet work

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:58 pm
by DaMaGeINC
My Dell True Mobile 1300 M-pcia card still doesent work. Anyone else. I was soo happy when I got the update, then it doesent work. What a major letdown.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:02 pm
by Chris
DaMaGeINC wrote:My Dell True Mobile 1300 M-pcia card still doesent work. Anyone else. I was soo happy when I got the update, then it doesent work. What a major letdown.


I tested with my TM1300 and it worked like a champ.

Not sure why you are having issues. The broadcom chipset is now supported. Perhaps you could give some more details.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:33 am
by sparafina
marius wrote:Be warned that NS 0.4's Atheros support is poor. Yes, it works, but the driver has the annoying habit of reporting everything it's seen in the last 2 minutes, rather than what it can see right now. NS 0.4 works around this but it may cause APs to appear and disappear.

Use an Atheros card in NDIS 5.1 mode to see it without the workaround. It's scary.


Good to know this, my Atheros A/B card was doing this.

I'm also not seeing any noise, is this part of the work around?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:45 am
by marius
Atheros cards do not report noise. I talked to their engineering folks and they could not understand why anyone might want such a thing :(

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 7:59 am
by Thorn
marius wrote:Atheros cards do not report noise. I talked to their engineering folks and they could not understand why anyone might want such a thing :(

Engineers couldn't understand this? I could see Marketing people saying something like that, but engineers! :eek:

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:22 am
by dda
Chris wrote:The broadcom chipset is now supported. Perhaps you could give some more details.


This support is through NDIS 5.1, right? My Linksys WPC54G is Broadcom based and only the NDIS entry appears in the menu for cards.

NS 0.4 Problem

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:58 am
by Tripleplay905
I got a problem with my WCI-CB-G54A card. When i go warbiking it finds the APs ok. But when i get back to my house, the green light next to some of the MAC numbers are on. But im not in range of those APs and my own network light is not on??

Can anybody help..

Thx

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:00 am
by Chris
dda wrote:This support is through NDIS 5.1, right? My Linksys WPC54G is Broadcom based and only the NDIS entry appears in the menu for cards.


I can't speak for the WPC54G of course, but TM1300 support is indeed through NDIS 5.1. I would ASSUME that WPC54G (and any other Broadcom cards) is as well.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:01 am
by Chris
Tripleplay905 wrote:I got a problem with my WCI-CB-G54A card. When i go warbiking it finds the APs ok. But when i get back to my house, the green light next to some of the MAC numbers are on. But im not in range of those APs and my own network light is not on??

Can anybody help..

Thx



Search for "two minutes" I think this is the problem you are referring to.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:20 am
by Tripleplay905
ok. but how do i fix it?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:24 am
by Chris
Tripleplay905 wrote:ok. but how do i fix it?



Marius answered that too somewhere, but I had trouble finding it in my search so I'll just paraphrase:

1. live with it
2. buy a different card
3. don't use netstumbler
4. something else i don't remember

Search around and you shoudl find his exact quotes...but in a nutsell that is it.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:33 am
by Tripleplay905
i cant find the post

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 11:34 am
by Chris
Tripleplay905 wrote:i cant find the post



The thread may have turned into a flame war and been moved. Let me see if I can find it and repost Marius' response verbatim. Give me a couple of minutes.