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Block certain SSID? Possible?

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:44 pm
by pacini
Hi,
I'm getting annoyed by someone trying to intrude my locations with his SSID, (he gets a close by location and shoot his signal inside my locations), now, is there a way to block him out? or maybe another idea of making his signal weak or useless to clients?

Thanks :)

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:11 pm
by dgstinner
Could you please explain yourself better? What you said made no sense to me. An SSID is broadcast by a router/access point. The way you're describing things, it sounds like people are driving/walking passed you with access points and I know that can't be the case.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:21 pm
by pacini
dgstinner wrote:Could you please explain yourself better? What you said made no sense to me. An SSID is broadcast by a router/access point. The way you're describing things, it sounds like people are driving/walking passed you with access points and I know that can't be the case.


Alright,
What is happening is that I own a few coffeeshops and I operate my own WiFi. What is happening now is that I got someone targetting my business with his WiFi signals (Same SSID on my locations), and it's annoying me.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:25 pm
by Thorn
No, there's no way to block his signal. He might be civilly and criminally liable however, if he is doing to so steal or otherwise defraud clients from you.

There are several ways that you can mitigate it the impact, depending on how you want to go about it, and how much you are willing to spend. Things like closed portals utilizing SSL can be very effectlive.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 9:26 pm
by Thorn
Move to the HotSpots Forum as the NetStumbler Forum was inappropriate.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:17 pm
by wrzwaldo
dgstinner wrote:Could you please explain yourself better? What you said made no sense to me. An SSID is broadcast by a router/access point. The way you're describing things, it sounds like people are driving/walking passed you with access points and I know that can't be the case.



I wouldn't be to sure about that. Myself and a couple others here have been known to toss a spare AP in the car when we are out and about.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 10:55 pm
by pacini
Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:41 am
by nashr
pacini wrote:Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?


Now I'm confused. At first I thought someone was using the same SSID that you use for your hotspots, thus confusing or causing problems for your customers.

Now it sounds like you want to set up a dummy AP with HIS SSID? So, I have some questions:

1) Is this problem being caused by another access point with the same SSID at your hotspots?

2) If not, please clarify the problem.

Thanks!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:26 am
by wrzwaldo
Your opening post... wrote:...

I'm getting annoyed by someone trying to intrude my locations with his SSID...


Then you said...

You Again wrote:...

What is happening now is that I got someone targetting my business with his WiFi signals (Same SSID on my locations), and it's annoying me.

...



Now you want to...

pacini wrote:Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?


Now if he/she/it has the same SSID and you block it won't that hose things up at your area as well? I mean you both have the SAME SSID right?

What's that horrible smell?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:38 am
by nashr
pacini wrote:Thorn,
Thanks. I'm willing to spend whatever, as long as I keep his SSID away. I was thinking to operate a dummy AP with his ssid/signal inside my territory, that won't "block him away" but I have a good chance that ppl wanting to connect to "HIS" network, will instead connect to this dummy AP and get nothing. This is not a 100% working solution, but I guess it's better than nothing, no?


Ah, and now you want to do to HIM what you say he's doing to YOU!!!???


Let the backpeddling begin.....

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:47 am
by The Others
A similar situation some time back:

http://netstumbler.org/showthread.php?t=10892

I stand by my post in that thread.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:50 am
by Dutch
These solutions will help in this case.

The cheap : Do search for WiFiSpray and purchase enough of that for your establishments. Then proceed to cover the walls in your establishment with at least two layers of WiFiSpray. That should keep your radiosignals inside, and their radiosignals outside.

The expensive : Purchase enough copperwiring (3 gauge minimum) to build a faraday cage in your coffeshops. If you are creative enough, you might even make it a part of the decor. Give out free tinfoil caps to all customers, and I'm sure the free marketing value from newspapers and TV stations telling about it, will cover the initial cost. of preventing other peoples LEGAL radio signals from intruding into your establishments.

:rolleyes:

Dutch

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:58 am
by streaker69
Is it just me, or does this sound like a cat fight between two businesses that are in direct competition of one another?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:02 am
by wrzwaldo
streaker69 wrote:Is it just me, or does this sound like a cat fight between two businesses that are in direct competition of one another?


Yes! And I'd be willing to bet this guy is bleeding from the rectum!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:47 am
by fregniacciaro
Dutch wrote:These solutions will help in this case.

The cheap : Do search for WiFiSpray and purchase enough of that for your establishments. Then proceed to cover the walls in your establishment with at least two layers of WiFiSpray. That should keep your radiosignals inside, and their radiosignals outside.

The expensive : Purchase enough copperwiring (3 gauge minimum) to build a faraday cage in your coffeshops. If you are creative enough, you might even make it a part of the decor. Give out free tinfoil caps to all customers, and I'm sure the free marketing value from newspapers and TV stations telling about it, will cover the initial cost. of preventing other peoples LEGAL radio signals from intruding into your establishments.

:rolleyes:

Dutch


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